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1 Introductions 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 June 26, 2015 Vancouver, B.C. (PROCEEDINGS COMMENCED AT 10:27 A.M.) THE CLERK: Calling the matter of Yukon Zinc Corporation and others, My Lady. MR. JACKSON: Good morning, My Lady. It is Jackson, initial K., appearing for the petitioner. With me today is Danielle Toigo and, as in past applications, Mark Oulton. MS. BUTTERY: Good morning, My Lady. Buttery, initial M., and Williams, initial L., counsel for the monitor herein. THE COURT: Thank you. MR. SIDDALL: Good morning, My Lady. Siddall, initial K., the last name is S-i-d-d-a-l-l, counsel for Sidhu Trucking Ltd. Sidhu is spelled S-i-d-h-u. And Scott Boucher, that is B-o-u-c-h-e-r, who is speaking to another matter in court may be joining me today. THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. MR. WANG: My Lady, Wang, W-a-n-g, first initial E. for Jinduicheng Canada Resources Corporation Ltd. THE COURT: That's the JDC Canada company? MR. WANG: Yes, it's the JDC Canada. THE COURT: All right. MR. LOUMAN-GARDINER: My Lady, my name is Louman-Gardiner, L-o-u-m-a-n - G-a-r-d-i-n-e-r, first initial T. Here for Hy's North Transportation Ltd. THE COURT: Mr. Louman-Gardiner. MR. FITZPATRICK: Fitzpatrick, initial D. for Transamine. MR. BROUSSON: Yes, My Lady. Brousson, B-r-o-u-s-s-o-n, first initial C., here on behalf of Maynards [inaudible]. THE COURT: Thank you. MR. STEPHENS: My name is Stephens, first initial S., counsel to Henry Awmack, Mark Baknes and David Caulfield. THE COURT: That is A-w-m-a-c-z? MR. STEPHENS: m-a-c-k, I believe. THE COURT: A-w-m-a-c-k. MR. STEPHENS: Correct. THE COURT: Is that a company? MR. STEPHENS: It's an individual, Henry Awmack. 2 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE COURT: Oh, Henry Awmack. And then Mr. ... MR. STEPHENS: Mark Baknes, B-a-k-n-e-s and David Caulfield, C-a-u-l-f-i-e-l-d. THE COURT: What is their interest, Mr. Stephens? MR. STEPHENS: They are parties to a contract with the petitioners, which gives them an in rem interest in certain precious metals and [indiscernible] smelter [inaudible]. We received notice of termination yesterday and our firm was retained late yesterday afternoon [inaudible]. THE COURT: Now I understand we have counsel on the phone? MR. PORTER: Yes, My Lady, you have Porter, initial J., as well as Henderson, initial L. for the Government of Yukon. THE COURT: Thank you. MR. COLLINS: My Lady, you have Collins, initial S. for Royal Gold Inc. THE COURT: I think that is everyone. MR. JACKSON: Yes. As I understand it that should be all. A few more than in the past. For that there are three royalty orders that Mr. Stephens is representing. They actually have the same royalty interest as Royal Gold. They just have a piece of it, a small piece. So we're talking about the same sort of thing. Their interests are effectively the same as Royal Gold's. Just a lineup in that respect. My Lady, just preliminary matters. We have some things to pass up to you just for completing your binders. There is an updated index, and some tabs, and interim orders, and affidavits and stuff for you to update your ... There are materials served around 9:35 this morning or something from Mr. Siddall's client, but I don't think it's going to be spoken to today. Just wanted to have it out there for this application. So I don't think you'll need it. THE COURT: I did get the application record. MR. JACKSON: Very good. THE COURT: And I did get the two affidavits that were supposed to be put in at tabs 6 and 7. MR. JACKSON: Which are ... THE COURT: The Lu and Wang affidavits. MR. JACKSON: Yes. THE COURT: And then I did get the monitor's sixth report. 3 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MR. JACKSON: Very good. And there's one more report which you won't have seen -THE COURT: That's the one you're seeking to seal. MR. JACKSON: That's the supplemental one. So there's a copy here for Your Ladyship and Ms. Buttery suggested that I see whether Your Ladyship would like to have a read over that -- stand us down and read over it for 15 minutes. It deals with the results of the assessment, and what the offers were and gives a little summary. It may be helpful for context. I don't know if it's strictly necessary on the application, but I am in Your Ladyship's hands in that regard. THE COURT: Well, why don't we get started, and I can perhaps review it over the break. MR. JACKSON: That would make sense. Do you want to hand that up? This is your copy, My Lady. MS. TOIGO: My Lady, it's a bound copy of the sixth report as well as the supplemental is the large one. THE COURT: I see. This is the one that's the secret one. MR. JACKSON: You'll have plenty of time on the break. THE COURT: Thank you. MR. JACKSON: So, My Lady, this is an application. You've seen the materials there, and I'm not sure if you've had a chance to read them over in any detail. THE COURT: The answer is generally no. What I have been able to review is the monitor's report, the sixth report. So that advised me of the general overview, but I haven't read the individual affidavits -MR. JACKSON: Certainly. Okay. THE COURT: -- with the draft orders that you are seeking. MR. JACKSON: Very well. And the orders -- well, I think I can tell you. The application was, of course, for an extension of the stay through to August 14th. We're also going to be seeking to initiate a claims process which is fairly standard in terms of the form. There was some commentary around that and we can flag that. I think in terms of opposition the -- on the claims process, it's generally not opposed. I think Mr. Siddall on behalf of his client, Sidhu, 4 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 which is a hauler who has asserted a lien claim, and Mr. Louman-Gardiner on behalf of his client, Hy's, who is also a hauler, who has also asserted a lien claim, their concern is that -- not to get too far into it -- but they believe the claims process shouldn't preclude the -- their right to have their claims determined in the Yukon court under their petition for their lien claim. And we can discuss exactly how -- I don't disagree with that. I think it would be premature to determine that now. It's my view, later on, if it comes back to the court, that that would be argued. But I think the point was to get some points on the record to -- to ensure that this wasn't pre-determining that issue. We'll come to that in a bit more detail. As part of the claims process we're also seeking to do something a little unique which is a contract identification process. The company has -- if there's going to be a restructuring, given that the mine is in care and maintenance, the idea is it really only requires very few ongoing supply contracts. And so the idea would be to terminate any other executory contracts. And the company's done -- I think it's identified those that need to be terminated, and it's done that in a number of cases. But we want to be certain -- because there's staff turnover, there's a concern that there might be some executory contracts that haven't been identified from the company's books and records. So the idea is to initiate a process for fleshing those ones out, by giving notice to people who are paid in the six months prior to the initiation of these proceedings as a way of trying to flesh out any other executory contracts just in case. So we can deal with those as part of a restructuring. There is some language in the order now, which after discussions with the monitor has been included. I will just flag it and come to it in detail, and one is to impose some control by the monitor over payments, expenditures going out of the company's accounts, $5,000 or more. And none of this part would be opposed. THE COURT: Is that an actual application or is that just the comments by the monitor? 5 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MR. JACKSON: It's based on discussions and comments from the monitor. We've included that and we made a draft of the order. THE COURT: Of the area [phonetic], then? MR. JACKSON: Well, it's included in this order. I think it's going forward from this point, that would be the case. And then the last thing is some language which gives the monitor enhanced authority to accept an offer for sale. Not to do a restructuring deal, but to accept an offer for the sale of any part of the assets during the next period -- during the extension period. And that offer would be subject to a restructuring plan coming forward, but in order to have a fallback, as it were. That's been given to the monitor to ensure that they can say that there's an opportunity to have a fallback position. So that's generally what we're seeking today. The last two things are kind of new. THE COURT: What about the employee charge? MR. JACKSON: The employee's charge, yes. There's also the interests in creating the $90,000 employee charge. And you'll see from the cash flow there's a lot of cash in the company now, enough to trust up 90,000 with the monitor to have it segregated and have it charged just over that in favour of the employees to ensure that they will get paid in September if they stick around to then, to ensure [inaudible]. I think that covers it. I think that's it. As I say, the application on the claims process order, there are some points that will be raised by a couple of counsel. Just to flag where this is going, I understand Mr. Porter will have some commentary about where this is going generally. And I think Mr. Collins is opposing the application generally. That was the last I heard, anyway. I don't think that changed. So what we are looking at really is one party opposing the application, generally speaking. So, My Lady, perhaps what I can do is take you through a couple of the affidavits. There's Mr. Lu's affidavit, which really was the one that speaks to what's been happening, and what the plan is now going forward and the basis for the extension and the employee charge. There's an 6 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. affidavit of Mr. Lu which you will have received recently which is the one that explains the origin of the -- call it the "new money." "Manna from heaven," I think Your Ladyship used as the description last time. And that's the Shaanxi Zinc excess funds, as it were; what we are calling "overpayment" or "excess funds." And I will take you through that a bit too, My Lady. You see the report. And the monitor has set it out. You can hear from Mr. Lu on that, about his description of the background on this. So -COURT: I take it then you are going to speak to all four of these applications, and then we'll let everyone address whatever aspect of those they wish? JACKSON: That would be my intention, My Lady. COURT: It seems to be -- it seems to me that is the only reasonable way you can -- otherwise we're into quite a bit of to-ing and fro-ing, I think, between the counsel. JACKSON: That's my view. Especially because I think -- I think it's discrete enough -- the opposition that we might hear is fairly discrete. In respect to the claims process it is a discrete issue that has been raised, and I think can be addressed by putting some comments on the record in terms of what is intended to do, and I think it would be consistent with Her Ladyship's view of things, I'm presuming, but that would be my guess. For Mr. Collins really it's -- if the stay is granted, I don't believe Mr. Collins has any particular issues with respect to any of the orders that are being sought. So it's sort of more broad. So it would make sense to address that at the end, I would think, My Lady. So, My Lady, perhaps I could just take you at paragraph 2 -- it's Mr. Lu's affidavit. It was sworn on June 11th. Sorry; paragraph 2 -tab 2. COURT: This is his previous affidavit. JACKSON: This is the one -- sorry? COURT: There was one that was before me on the last -JACKSON: You're right. I'm looking at tab 4. Thank you. 7 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE COURT: He's got affidavits 4 and 5 which are the new ones. MR. JACKSON: That's right. Tab 4 is affidavit 4. It's the one that was sent out on Tuesday with the notice of application. THE COURT: So tab 4? MR. JACKSON: Yes. One point we can start with is at paragraph 4, which deals with the excess funds. And that's a term, a defined term which is consistently used in this affidavit in the monitor's report in Mr. Lu's fifth affidavit, where it refers to the overpayment by Shaanxi Zinc under the bank drafts. Those funds were sitting in a -- what I understand is called a "suspense account" with Bank of Communications San Francisco, which after discussions with the company and with the monitor were placed into a company US account at Bank of Communications San Francisco and eventually there was some dispute over the legal fees to be held back by Bank of Communications. But after that was resolved the funds were transferred to Bank of Montreal in Vancouver. The company's account at Bank of Montreal in Vancouver is just over $4.3 million US. Those funds, there is no restriction to their use. So they are now available for use by the company to fund its ongoing operations and the proceedings, which is all to the good. And you will see from the cash flow which I will take you through in a moment that that means that over this coming period there was plenty of cash to continue this process without the need to draw on the interim facility. And the intention was to make no further draws under that facility. Paragraph 5 dealing with the Wolverine Mine. This deals with the employees. So the previous affidavit was advised that the company had offered a bonus payment to its employees at that mine. $90,000 in the aggregate for those employees. It secures -- the idea is to put a charge over those funds segregated to secure a payment of that amount. If the order is made today, that will happen first thing. There is, as I say, plenty of money to do that as a result of these excess funds becoming available. And Your Ladyship has been taken through the 8 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 reasons for that. I could take you back through that notice of application which summarizes the evidence in Mr. Lu's third and fourth affidavit. So maybe we are doing a bit of flipping, but maybe it would be useful for Your Ladyship to hear those reasons again if they are asking for that. So tab 1 -THE COURT: Is this affidavit number 3? MR. JACKSON: Well, yes, we can do that. I can take you through affidavit number 3 at tab 2 which will have the information. So that is at page 5 of that affidavit, paragraph 15. So Yukon Zinc, it has 11 rotational employees at the Wolverine Mine, and they work in teams of five or six. They are the ones who are carrying out the necessary care and maintenance to keep the company in compliance with the regulations and make sure that that mine is being cared for in the care and maintenance mode. Those employees, some of them, have raised a concern that the company and Malcolm Swallow -you'll remember Malcolm Swallow is the independent contractor who was engaged to oversee mining -- the mine site, and deal with Yukon government to a great extent, regarding their job security. They asked whether the company would implement a form of key employee retention plan -- I gather that was actually what they asked for -- and requested reassurance they be paid. Mr. Lu's affidavit goes on to say that the work being carried out is necessary for the preservation of the company's assets and a successful restructuring wouldn't be possible if that work weren't performed. On top of that, the Yukon regulations mandate that that certain number of employees, some having specific training and accreditation, remain on site at the Wolverine Mine, and the company has concerns that it would be unable to retain the current employees or hire new qualified employees in the current circumstances if this isn't granted. So the company, with the consent of the monitor, offered the bonus payment. It's one month's salary for each 9 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. employee if they stay until the end of September. The total is $90,000, as I said. This is one of those instances where you have the key employees being retained are the ones actually on the ground doing the work on the asset, and it's not a significant number in the context of the overall restructuring, but losing those employees could be really problematic for the company and for the restructuring generally. And I think anybody would like to make sure that that doesn't happen. To make sure that the mine stays in care and maintenance is a good thing. COURT: Has there been any change in the employee situation since the filing? JACKSON: The number of employees at the mine site. COURT: The people have been quitting? JACKSON: One person quit. And I know -- at the actual mine site one person has quit. There were reductions or layoffs that were subsequent to the process, I think. But in terms of actually keeping employees, one has quit, that I understand. Head office is a different story. There have been terminations at head office. COURT: Yes. JACKSON: In terms of making sure the mine was safe and sound, the concern is, I think, more employees quitting. So, My Lady, that is the evidence in support of that application for the creation of that charge and the intention of the funds. And the monitor has some comments on it in their report, and I will let the monitor take you to that as well. So back to tab 4, My Lady, in Mr. Lu's fourth affidavit. At paragraph 6. So under the management of Mr. Swallow the company is continuing to carry out the care and maintenance. He is also working to finalize and submit amended temporary closure plans and permanent closure plans. And those are due every five years. And what happens is they submit one that they have to do by July 17th. They look to be on schedule for that. It will be considered, I think, by the government. I think there is undoubtedly some discussion back and forth as to that. And then the government eventually settles on acceptable 10 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. plans for closure. But importantly with that comes the determination as to the bonding requirement in connection with the closure plan. And at present the current bonding requirement I think is about $10 million. That number could go up. It could go down depending on the closure plan that's ultimately settled upon. Timing-wise that is the importance in terms of the overall process here and the restructuring. But that's the -- the timing is mid-July for the submission of those. In paragraph 7 I note -- and you will hear from Mr. Porter, I think, that while the company's in regular communication with the government regarding the Wolverine Mine and care and maintenance and the closure plans and reclamation bonds, but we keep hearing -- the company hears through us -- that the Yukon is becoming increasingly concerned about payment of the outstanding reclamation bond amounts. And some of those amounts were due at pre-filing. Some of those amounts are coming due post-filing. Now, whether or not they are -- would be characterized as entirely pre-filing claims or post-filing claims is an issue, not one I need to get into. I think everyone recognizes that if this mine is to even continue in care and maintenance mode upon emergence those bonds are going to have to be dealt with. So it's recognized I think Mr. Porter's concern and Ms. Henderson's concern is largely going to be around when does that get paid, and maybe that should start getting paid sooner. COURT: So when you say the $10 million is the bonding requirement now -JACKSON: 6.9 has been paid. COURT: So 6.9 of the 10- has been paid. JACKSON: Yes, the 3.1 million is the debt. Now, that's not all due yet. But a couple of million dollars of it probably is I think. Roughly. As I say, it could -- the argument is characterized as a pre-filing claim, but it may be an argument without much purpose at the end of the day. As I say, paragraph 7, the company or it's legal counsel have discussed this bonding issue with the monitor and the parties are attempting to figure out if some interim arrangements might 11 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 be made. As it says, we didn't expect that to be done by Friday, that's today, June 26th, but we're going to continue those discussions with the government. Paragraph 8, you'll recall that there were criminal charges against the company in the Yukon related to the non-payment of the reclamation bond. There were charges brought. Those ones have been put off again now to July 14th. Paragraph 9, disclaiming agreements, termination of employees. So as I say, the company's continuing to reduce costs. So on June 18th the company, with the approval of the monitor, provided notices of disclaimer to Royal Gold and Orion, disclaiming royalty agreements between the company and those parties. And Mr. Oulton is acting for the company in relation to that. Counsel for both Royal Gold and Orion have been in contact regarding those notices of disclaimer. We can expect there will be an objection, perhaps. I would expect that, but none has been received as of the date of the affidavit. The company is also -- I don't know if this is -- it might be more recent, but the company has also recently sent a notice of disclaimer as well to the three individuals that Mr. Stephens is representing. I think they just got them yesterday, so there's time still for them to object, and they may well do that. But they would be lined up with Royal Gold. It's the same royalty agreement. They have a piece of it. The company has also disclaimed its agreement with ITC Global Inc. which does contract satellite service at the Wolverine Mine. I gather that the service was not very good, it was pretty spotty, and it was actually causing difficulties in terms of operations and communications from that site. And so -- and it was not inexpensive. And so the company terminated that and has arranged for other services to ensure they have connectivity there. Paragraph 12. The company's taken steps to reduce head office costs. It's terminated an additional three employees effective June 19th. It's being done in consultation with the monitor 12 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 to make sure that the staff necessary to produce ongoing cash flow updates, administer a claims process, a contract identification process, that those are -- all sufficient staff are being maintained. There are some reductions in head office costs. Page 4, paragraph 13. One clarification -I don't think this will come up again, I don't expect it will -- there were some submissions made by counsel for Procon at the last hearing to the effect that JDC Canada and Yukon Zinc are one and the same parent company and Yukon Zinc, they have the same directors and same management, so there was some concern that Mr. Lu's statements that he was going -- having discussions with Yukon or JDC Canada is a little bit specious -summarizing, but that would be the effect of it. And Mr. Lu wants to make clear at paragraph 13 he's talking to JDC Canada, but that's not just JDC Canada -- there is a corporate chart I will show you -- it's JDC Canada, which their shareholder is the ultimate parent of all of those he's dealing with, and he's been using the term "JDC Canada" as saying that I can talk to them, but really I'm talking to a bunch of other people in relation to all of this. It's not just one in isolation. Paragraph 14. JDC has indicated it remains supportive of the restructuring process. It is still open to funding restructuring. Mr. Lu points out that that commitment is manifested by the recent provision of the additional financial support. So there is the freeing up of the $5 million of the excess funds -- and I'll take you through the circumstances related to that. It has also arranged for additional funding -- I think it's in the amount of approximately 5 million -- which at one point it said it was prepared to lend the company or otherwise use to fund a restructuring plan. So JDC Canada has been taking the positive steps that we want to show that the intention here is to carry out a restructuring, and it is no small amount of money that they have actually put in to move this forward. Now, next week -- this is paragraph 15 -- it is now confirmed on July 1st there are six, I 13 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 believe, executives from JDC landing in Vancouver. They will be meeting with the company, of course counsel, and with the monitor, with their counsel, to discuss what the plan is here in terms of these proceedings, and that includes making a final decision as to whether to support the restructuring transaction. And that's -- it's reflected in the timelines, the deadlines that are being imposed under the proposed order, which is to make that decision now by July 31st, and to advise the monitor in writing -- the company to advise if that will be happening, and if they have the unqualified support of JDC to do that. So this is a good step. This will be the first time that JDC's senior execs have come into -- into Vancouver to work with the monitor to advance this further. Paragraph 16, the suggestion was that the proceedings can extended to August 31st. That's been pulled back by a couple of weeks. But Mr. Lu says he expects that if that happens the company will be in a position to come back to the court with a restructuring agreement, be funded by JDC. Potentially one of the offerors -there's no reason to say that if that -- if JDC decides not to go forward that something couldn't be done with an offeror. So the restructuring plan is still very much a reality here rather than distinct from a sale. Mr. Lu says that's a good reason now to initiate the claims process, because if we're going to move forward with the restructuring we need to have that as part of it and be ready to -- well, it's really going to assist in actually determining what the plan will look like. We need to know what part of this we're dealing with. So now is a time to make sure that we have that so that a definitive plan can be negotiated and put together. Paragraph 18. This deals with the contract identification process. And so we mentioned here that given that the Wolverine Mine Mr. Lu says is not presently operating, or expected to operate for some time, there's only a handful of ongoing agreements that need to be preserved, and the rest can be terminated. So he understands the restructuring plan would likely contemplate the 14 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 termination of all non-essential contracts. He knows from having reviewed the offers in a solicitation process, at least one of them is conditional on the company disclaiming executory contracts. And so either -- irrespective of whether it's a JDC-funded or potentially third party-funded restructuring termination of executory contracts, all of the essential ones has to happen. Paragraph 19. The company has sought to identify executory contracts, and while the company is trying to keep its books and records, there has been a high rate of staff turnover in recent years, at its head office. So the concern is that the company's records may not be complete, and Mr. Lu understands the monitor shares that concern. And so the intention here is to initiate an executory contract identification process to try and solicit -- not claims, but input from parties who believe they have executory contracts, proofs of those contracts. The idea here, in paragraph 20, is to give a notice as part of a claims process to all persons that received a payment from the company during the six months before the filing date. And then allow them to identify and provide information regarding executory contracts they believe they are a party to with the company. Now we're going to have a list. So if it's on the list you don't have to do it. But the intention is that if there's anything that's not on the list that you think exists, then tell us, is the idea. Mr. Lu says he believes that that is an appropriate way to give notice because any payments made during that time he thinks would have been made to effectively all the suppliers of goods and services to the Wolverine Mine when it was operational. It shut down in January. This proceeding started in March. So you'd be going back to September of -THE COURT: How was the company going to know that they want to disclaim it if they don't even know about it? MR. JACKSON: That's exactly it. So this process is, tell us if you have a contract, we'll look at it and say if we agree or we don't. But if you do 15 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. have one we don't want, we'll then disclaim it. So really we're asking people to tell us what contract we can disclaim. COURT: So this isn't a -- an invented disclaimer process? JACKSON: No. There was some thought about that, and we didn't think that that would go very far, My Lady. COURT: Yes. JACKSON: Save that for another time. No, the idea is -- I mean we may learn about a contract that we want, I suppose, that the company might, but if not, then the idea would be to disclaim the other ones just in case. The company -- we think we have got most of them, given what's going on, but we don't want to risk that obviously, particularly where it's a condition of a third party funding for a restructure. COURT: Yes. JACKSON: So paragraph 22. The company's seeking an extension of the stay. We say August 31st. They're proposing August 14th. We're happy to discuss that with Your Ladyship as to what dates make sense. This will facilitate the claims process and executory contract identification process. Completing and submitting the temporary closure plan and a permanent closure plan. Meeting with JDC Group and the monitor to discuss JDC group's objectives and hopefully get a definitive decision in terms of carrying forward with the restructuring. And not to leave out the idea that there's still these outstanding offers that might yet be advanced and the monitor having the authority to accept one, or even the company, in a restructuring offer if that's the way it should go with the third party. So that's not going to just grind to a halt. That's going to continue as well. Mr. Lu says that he understands certain parties have questioned the good faith of the company. He believes it has been acting in good faith and with due diligence, of course, throughout the proceedings, and seeking an extension. So that's Mr. Lu's evidence on the application for the extension of the claims process, or generally, and the other related 16 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. parts of that. So, My Lady, what I might do then, because this is the thing that I think came up last week, and I should mention this -- this won't be clear from the material I just realized -- is as of yesterday a deal had been made between Procon and JDC Canada where JDC Canada acquired Procon's help. COURT: Yes, I saw that from the monitor's report. JACKSON: Okay. Very good. I hadn't noticed that. I was focused on other matters. COURT: I assumed -- well, it seemed pretty evident since Mr. Sandrelli's not here either. He was your worst critic as far as I can see. JACKSON: I wouldn't [indiscernible] anything, My Lady. COURT: He was your worst critic as far as I can see. JACKSON: That's right. No, I have my own [indiscernible]. In any event, My Lady, yes. That's obviously important, the details are confidential and that's fine. But I go back to in terms of what, you know, what are the things -- the question is, has the company been progressing? It's advancing its restructuring, and I don't know that there can be any doubt. I think maybe early on there was a question as to what was going on, and how to deal with it and there was a solicitation process. But I do say this, is that it can't be lost in all of this is that the company, with the support of its parent -- and when we say "parent" it really means JDC Canada, JDC Group, all the way up to Shaanxi and Non-Ferrous Metals and back down to Shaanxi Zinc are all engaged in this and they're committed to it at least to the point that you can say they have collectively managed to get $5 million of free cash into this company and [indiscernible]. There's no -- in fact, it's not -- it doesn't prejudice anyone, that cash coming in. It's only to the benefit, number one. And number two, they've taken steps to deal with the most significant -- call it secured creditor, lien claim. They would be by number -- you'll remember they asserted about $7 million, I think it was at least -- it was agreed that at the 17 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 present it was at least 4.2- and grew up from there. There was no other creditor besides JDC Canada that -- in that position that approaches that number. So that's a very significant and positive step, and I don't wish that to be lost. That is the kind of evidence that I say indicates that this restructuring process is not happening all at once, it's -- call it a "phased process" or a "step process," is happening. And it's with the right support of the right people and the company's doing what it can to facilitate that. So there are some very positive developments over the last -- well, even two weeks. But certainly in the last three weeks to a month which actually shows real money being made available to keep this process going. And ultimately I say is evidence that there is an intention to carry out a restructuring. JDC executives are arriving on Canada Day to come and discuss that more. THE COURT: And when you say it's free cash, or available cash, do you mean in that sense that a stay for these arrangements that have been made the monies would have remained in this what's been called an "suspense account? Is that the case? MR. JACKSON: Well, there would have been a dispute. That much we can say. Shaanxi Zinc had asserted an interest in those funds. And Yukon Zinc -actually, if you ask Mr. Lu, and I'll take you through this, he actually didn't think that they were the company's monies. He thought they belonged to Shaanxi Zinc as well. I think, you know, with the monitor's input, and frankly with the benefit of looking at it, it's arguable whose monies those were. There's arguments on both sides. I happily didn't have to get far into that. But it would have been staying -- to the expectations, it would have been in that suspense account. What's most important is it wouldn't have been available to the company in any short period of time. I don't think you could have had any ability to use those monies in the face of the claims of Shaanxi Zinc, and in the fact that we didn't have the co-operation of BCC San Francisco. Because they held -- they were holding the monies trying to figure out themselves what to do with them. And so those 18 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 monies came in, the agreement really was that JDC Canada really has guaranteed the repayment of those funds and given them security for that. That doesn't affect priorities at all. It's free cash that's come into the company as a result of that. It's JDC Canada giving up $5 million, first position claim that it has in terms of its security. So in that respect that is the -- it is beneficial in that the related parties, Shaanxi Zinc included, that JDC Canada have done what they can to assist in this process. Again, evidence of the -- of the [indiscernible] good faith, advancement of the restructuring process. So My Lady, the fifth affidavit of Mr. Lu is at tab 6. This is the one that deals with those funds. And I'm -- I'm somewhat hesitant to go through in a great matter of detail, but I will take you through -- there's a lot of documents that I don't want to refer to because they don't need to be referred to. They have been summarized, I think, accurately, and I think the monitor agrees the description of the transaction is right in Mr. Lu's affidavits. So I'll take you through that. This has all come out of -- these monies became available last week where there were concerns raised by counsel for Procon about just how this arose, and I believe Your Ladyship has suggested that it would be incumbent upon the company to explain that in the circumstances, and so that has been undertaken, and the monitor has done its own investigation at the same time. You have seen the monitor's report. You have not seen Mr. Lu's affidavit, I don't think. So I will take you through that. Paragraph 4 of tab 6, Mr. Lu's fifth affidavit talks about the relationship between Yukon Zinc and Shaanxi Zinc. Maybe the easiest thing to do, really, is just to turn over to tab A on that. It might be one of the only tabs I refer to here. My Lady, do you have tab -- oh, you do have -THE COURT: The corporate share? MR. JACKSON: Yes. So at the top of all of this is the Chinese state-owned enterprise, Shaanxi Non-Ferrous Metals Holding Group Co. So Shaanxi 19 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. Non-Ferrous we call it. On the right takes you down to Yukon Zinc. So JDC Moly Group, or we call JDC Group, which is a wholly-owned sub, that JDC Group owns two-thirds of JDC Canada which [indiscernible] 100 percent of Yukon Zinc. So that's the relationship from Yukon Zinc back to the Chinese state-owned enterprise. JDC Canada and Yukon Zinc are BC corps. JDC Molly Group and Shaanxi Non-Ferrous are both PRC. COURT: Sorry; who was the other third? JACKSON: The other third is I think about six -five or six, it's spread out over -- five of -COURT: Individuals or companies? JACKSON: Companies. Chinese companies. Silver Corp.? I thought they were all Chinese. One BC Co. at least. Back up on the other side it's Shaanxi Zinc. It is 80 percent owned by Shaanxi Non-Ferrous. It is also a Chinese company. So really, I mean, I think we said before, the Yukon Zinc -- I described them and Shaanxi Zinc as cousins. If you looked at it going through the grandfather, Inn that's perhaps right. But they are related, you will see. COURT: And PR China is ... JACKSON: People's Republic. COURT: The government; right? Is it? JACKSON: Well, I guess -- no, I think what we're saying is it's a Chinese company. But you are right about Shaanxi Non-Ferrous Metals Holding being a Chinese state-owned enterprise, state level, not federal. COURT: Okay. Shaanxi Province, I think, so provincial level. And Shaanxi Zinc was purchasing concentrate from Yukon Zinc. Is that right what's going on there? JACKSON: Correct. Yes. COURT: That was really what led to all this -all these transactions? JACKSON: That's right. And the transaction itself actually isn't, I don't think to say -it's fair to say -- unusual in the mining finance world. You've heard about Transamine prepaying for concentrate. That's effectively what Shaanxi Zinc was doing, prepaying. The difficulty that I 20 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 think you see is that there is -- Transamine can go to its bank and send you 8 million Euros tomorrow. That's not so easy for a Chinese company. So it's done through a letter of credit and drafts being drawn immediately on the letter of credit that are payable a year later. That's the part that I can explain a little bit here. I hesitate to get too much into the details, but it's almost important that I do to explain how there's an overpayment which was anticipated, but for the reasons that Mr. Lu explains, as far as he's concerned, or Shaanxi Zinc's concerned, it really should belong -- it's their money. That's the reason. So I can take you through that, but in a broader sense, My Lady, that's exactly right, Shaanxi Zinc is purchasing zinc and prepaying for it. So paragraph 6. The idea here was they enter into an agreement. This is back in April of 2014. So Yukon and Shaanxi enter into a purchase agreement. Yukon is supposed to deliver 60,000 wet metric tonnes of zinc concentrate over to Shaanxi in lots of 10,000 each, and that's all to happen through -- in regular shipments -through to April the following year. So it's supposed to be a year of -- six shipments over the course of a year. Every two months I guess. Copies of the documents are attached. Paragraph 7. So Shaanxi Zinc was to pay for the zinc concentrate -- this is the way they do it. They obtain an irrevocable letter of credit in favour of Yukon Zinc from a Chinese bank which allows for partial payments and trans shipment, and the value of the letter of credit was for the full purchase price of the zinc concentrate which would be based on a provisional invoice remitted by Yukon Zinc. So before they've delivered anything they provide a provisional invoice that says, here's the total purchase price for 60,000. That's what that looks like. And that letter, or the provisional letter -- letter of the credit would allow two drawings: An initial 80 percent of the amount of the provisional invoice, which would be payable within 360 days -- this is all happening in April of 2014 -- and then a beneficiaries' draft for the remaining 20 percent which would be paid on 21 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE sight of certain documents, which really was when it shipped you get the other 20 percent. So over the page then. So on April 4th Shaanxi Zinc goes and gets a letter of credit from Bank of Communications, Shaanxi provincial branch in favour of Yukon Zinc. Now, it actually has its own bank which had issued a letter of credit to Bank of Communications, Shaanxi, but we don't have to worry about that. The important part is we get a Bank of Communications Shaanxi letter of credit in favour of Yukon Zinc. And that's attached at tab C, which is an invisive [phonetic] documentary letter of credit for Bank of Communications San Francisco saying it has received the original LC. So it has received the LC in favour of Yukon Zinc. COURT: What's CNY? JACKSON: Reminbi. COURT: It's an odd symbol for reminbi. JACKSON: I think it might have originally -- I have been guessing at this; here's my theory -Chinese yuan at one point, and it's actually properly reminbi. I am getting nods from my client, so ... COURT: All right. Chinese yuan, okay. JACKSON: Yuan. I'm pronouncing it wrong, but yes. So they get the letter of credit. Yukon Zinc issues the provisional invoice -- this is sub B. And a provisional invoice for 60,000 wet metric tonnes works out to just over 220 million reminbi. And then delivers a shipping schedule which was the second necessary document to get the draw and the letter of credit. So they immediately make a draw, paragraph 9, under the LC, and the draw is for the 80 percent, that 80 percent that they're entitled to draw based on the provisional invoice. And that works out to about 176 [indiscernible]. And it's payable -- that draft -- this is important -- that draft is at Exhibit F. I may just ask you to look at it. It's happily one of the simpler documents here. COURT: What page is that? JACKSON: 29. COURT: Yes. 22 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MR. JACKSON: And so that draft is payable to -- it says paid to the order of -- about a third of the page down -- Bank of Communications Co. Ltd. San Francisco. THE COURT: Yes. MR. JACKSON: So under the LC they get a draft that's payable -- you should note at 360 days from that date -- is payable not to Yukon Zinc; it's payable to BCC San Francisco. So this is ultimately Shaanxi Zinc's money because it posted the LC, but it's being paid to BCC San Francisco, not Yukon Zinc. Why they do that I'll explain in a moment. So at April 4th they've now got 176 million CNY payable though BCC San Francisco in a year. In a year. And so what happens is BCC San Francisco turns around and says, that's good enough for us. They enter into a credit agreement with Yukon Zinc. Paragraph 11, the line of credit was in US dollars and the limit was 90 percent of the amount of that initial draft divided by 6.6 which was the exchange rate at that time. THE COURT: So does the money actually get paid to BCC San Francisco, or is it just they're holding it in draft? MR. JACKSON: In a year. THE COURT: It's just in a year? MR. JACKSON: In a year -THE COURT: So there's no cash flowing at this point? MR. JACKSON: No, that was it. I mean it's sort of -you know, it's an interesting way of getting -- I guess it's part of the currency restriction. How you get there, I don't know. But it's -- the net result is that on the strength of that draft, which is payable in a year, irrevocably, BCC San Francisco makes cash available to Yukon Zinc. As I say, if it was Transamine they just send Yukon Zinc a draft, but they couldn't do that. So they had to do it in this manner. Now that line of credit -- this is the other key point here at paragraph 11. That -THE COURT: So the line of credit is the means by which the cash is needed for Yukon Zinc. MR. JACKSON: That's how it finally becomes available to Yukon Zinc, My Lady, exactly. THE COURT: So BCC San Francisco has their draft in 23 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 their hand and then they say, okay, now I have got the security to give you the cash. MR. JACKSON: Exactly. THE COURT: Is that what happened? MR. JACKSON: Yes, My Lady. Now, the interesting part at paragraph 11 is they don't give them the full 166 million value. They give them 90 percent of that. And that's where we start to see where the overpayment creeps in. Because you can see what happens. They give them 90 percent of 80 percent. And when the 80 percent gets paid, there's that debt that's the over -- that's the bulk of the overpayment. There is an exchange issue that comes into it as well because the exchange rate got more favourable for the CNY for the reminbi in the year, from 6.6 to 6.1. But that 90 percent, they limited -- they said, we have security, we'll give you 90 percent of the value of the security, the line of credit. So at the time the limit was $9.1 million US, top of page 4. And it was drawn immediately. So that's -- as I say, mine financing. Paragraph 12, there were two deliveries of zinc concentrate, each in the amount of -- it's round numbers -- 10,000 wet metric tonnes; one a bit more, one a bit less, in June and September of 2014. And what happens is they issue their confirmation that they've shipped, so they then get to draw another 20 percent, the other 20 percent, for those shipments. And so what they do is, in paragraph 13, they get two more drafts, and those are the numbers then for the amount that's payable -- the balance that's payable, they get 20 percent. So in one case it's 3.75 reminbi and in the other case it's 9 million reminbi. And that is what happens. So you see there are two more drafts at tabs H and I. I don't need to take you to them. The numbers are there. They're payable again in a year. Or in April, I should say. It's not a year in this case. They're both payable on April 9th because the LC expired on April 9th. So now the bank is sitting on more drafts. And both of these drafts I can tell you -- you can look at them again, but they look very much like the last ones -- they're payable to the Bank of Communications San Francisco, not Yukon Zinc. 24 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 Same idea for the other 20 percent of these two shipments. So the bank enters into an amending agreement in September. This is paragraph 14. And the idea being that the credit limits extended up to 90 percent of all drafts now, not just the provisional -- not just that first draft. So you get to collect -- you get to up the amount of your credit line to 90 percent of all drafts now. So it includes these two new drafts. So it ups it a bit more. And again, noting it's 90 percent of the 20 percent, not the full 20 percent. 90 percent only. There is an ultimate limit of US 30 million, but we don't get there. So it ups the credit line a bit. And those funds were again immediately drawn; paragraph 15. So paragraph 16, to say what was explained in the initial filing -- this is the part of us understanding what was going on at the time -- in his first affidavit Mr. Lu deposes that the company owed BCC San Francisco approximately $17.9 million, or had an outstanding obligation to deliver another 40,000 wet metric tonnes of zinc concentrate to Shaanxi Zinc. Either one would have been sufficient to retire its obligations. He describes that as a simplification. It's true, that is a simplification. But the point being they either could have paid that to BCC San Francisco to retire the obligation and Yukon Zinc wouldn't have had a complaint because its LC would only have been drawn to the extent that it had received zinc, or they could have delivered 40,000 wet metric tonnes and the whole LC would have been paid, but Shaanxi Zinc would have got what they bargained for. So that was the point at the -- at the day of the initial filing in March. Paragraph 17. The company owed a lot of money at the filing date to BCC San Francisco and only had about $7,000 US in a US funds account. So it was hugely indebted to BCC San Francisco. That is the case at March 13th. THE COURT: That's the $17.9 million. MR. JACKSON: It's a net number. That's right. It's a net amount. A little bit later I'll explain 25 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. how it comes up here. But it's -- I'll take you to the right paragraph, though, since you asked the question. It is paragraph 25. Page 7. So later on in his affidavit Mr. Lu says that at the filing date BCC San Francisco is owed about 25-, almost $26 million US on its line of credit. So different from the 17.9-. COURT: It's different. Those are two different numbers, then? JACKSON: No, sorry; it's a much higher number. What he said originally is 17.9-. COURT: Yes. JACKSON: Was not strictly right because there's actually 25-, and so he explains why he said 17.9-. COURT: Oh. JACKSON: It was actually 25-. Now, that number came from one of the accountants employed by Yukon Zinc, Ms. Zhao, who says it was derived by subtracting the amount -the value of the zinc concentrate already delivered, which was $11 million US roughly from what was estimated BCC San Francisco was owed at the time and converting it to Canadian dollars. So what they did is they said, well, we owe 25-, almost $26 million to the bank. We've delivered just over $11 million to Yukon Zinc -- to Shaanxi Zinc. The net is about $14 million at the time. So when the letter of credit gets called on we'll say we really owe the money to Shaanxi, but it's really the difference, 14 million. Which is 17.9- Canadian. Now, I can go over that again. COURT: I'm not sure. JACKSON: It's okay. We've got two weeks to do this. The money -- I mean properly speaking, if this had been sworn in May -- if this had all started in May, there would be no money owing to Bank of Communications San Francisco because they got paid under the drafts in April. Who would have been owed money, though, was Shaanxi Zinc, because they would have received only 20,000 of the 60,000 tonnes they deserved. COURT: They would have had a claim for their overpayment, wouldn't they? JACKSON: Exactly, yes. No, sorry. They will 26 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. have paid all that money to Bank of Communications San Francisco under their letter of credit. COURT: Yes. JACKSON: So they would have paid them $25 million US -- $26 million US under the letter of credit, under the draft, and they would have only received $11 million worth of zinc. COURT: Yes, but so -- but they didn't have a claim against BCC San Francisco, did they? JACKSON: No. COURT: They had a claim against Yukon Zinc. JACKSON: Correct. COURT: To say, you know, hey, I was supposed to get 60,000. I only got 20-. JACKSON: The 40,000 tonnes, or -COURT: I've overpaid you; right? JACKSON: Yes, exactly. Sorry; I just want to be clear. The overpayment issue is distinct from that overpayment. There's the large overpayment by them, and then there's the overpayment to BCC San Francisco which is what this is about. But either way -- either way Shaanxi Zinc in April had paid -COURT: Well, they didn't overpaid them because they contractually agreed to pay on that draft. JACKSON: So now we're into the crux of the dispute here. If you ask Shaanxi Zinc it, they'll say, look, you know, we were paying out the line of credit. We had no problem with that. That's what we had agreed to do in terms of this overall financing arrangement. But we paid out more than the line of credit. We paid out the line of credit plus an extra 4 million bucks. That was a mistake. That was never intended. It was a consequence of how we did this. But that money was never intended to be a payment. That was our money that we shouldn't have given to the bank. Somehow that arrangement ended up causing us to overpay over the line of credit. What they say is, we should have paid 26 million to the BCC San Francisco, retire the line of credit, we're done. That was the intention here. We never intended to overpay and ended up paying them 31-. So that -- that is the overpayment issue that we're here about. Now, Your Ladyship is right, that the 27 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. argument from a -- if you stood back and said, okay, this is a dispute between arm's-length parties, and Yukon Zinc says, too bad, you overpaid, you overpaid to Yukon Zinc under these drafts, under this arrangement, it's our money. That's the dispute. Shaanxi Zinc says, we paid too much, give us back the difference, Yukon Zinc would say we wouldn't, but could say -- I suppose a trustee might argue, no, that money, unfortunate mistake, but it's our money. COURT: All of the money's sitting in BCC San Francisco; isn't that right? JACKSON: Correct. In an suspense account. COURT: So the competing interests in respect of that money are potential argument by Shaanxi Zinc to say, you know, pay -- even though under this draft I was supposed to pay you that amount, in fact there is a mistake and I should get it back. Or Yukon Zinc to say, hey, that money was paid -JACKSON: That was the deal. COURT: -- to us and I've got financing, and after I pay all financing, those monies are mine. JACKSON: Yes, that would be -- that would be argument. COURT: Because it's Yukon Zinc's account at BCC San Francisco, isn't it? JACKSON: It wasn't. COURT: It wasn't? JACKSON: It was not. It was paid to BCC -- the drafts are payable to BCC San Francisco. Now, it's intended to pay down the line of credit. But the overpayment, the extra $4.3 million, BCC San Francisco says, what do we do with this? And they put it in an suspense account. COURT: All right. So it goes into the suspense account. But those are the competing claims. JACKSON: Yes. COURT: Shaanxi Zinc to say, hey, I want that back because I didn't get the zinc; Yukon Zinc to say, hey, that's mine. JACKSON: Yeah. I mean and so -- you know, and Shaanxi Zinc would say, look, legitimately we've now paid a line of credit for $25 million and only got $11 million worth of zinc. Give us 40,000 more metric tonnes or $14 million on that payment. But the overpayment, the over 26 million that the line of credit was at, the 28 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. extra 4 million that went there, come on. That's our money. That's what they would say. And so we jumped ahead a little -COURT: So what you're really saying, though, is that on the filing date, the evidence from Mr. Lu at that time was that he was addressing the net situation from the -- the shortage of the shipments. He wasn't really addressing the overpayment. JACKSON: Correct, My Lady. COURT: Which leads to the question, why not? JACKSON: Right. COURT: Did he know about it? If so -JACKSON: So we jump ahead a little bit. Yes, and we can come to that. COURT: All right. JACKSON: So in February or March -- I am just trying to figure out where I am on this, because I'll take you through a little bit of the knowledge in terms of what was happening. Okay, yes. So paragraph 18 is where we get into that. So as Your Ladyship has put together, the way the credit limit and the drafts work, that the drafts would have been payable for an amount more than would be owing to BCC San Francisco and the line of credit. That's paragraph 8. And of course, no issue if all the zinc concentrate is delivered and had been delivered on a timely basis. But in late January when the mine gets shut down it becomes apparent that there might be an overpayment. So Shaanxi Zinc and Yukon Zinc start to have some discussions about this in January and February, even into March. And they agree, among other things, paragraph 19, that Shaanxi Zinc would take steps to extend the expiry of the letter of credit for another six months so that the shipments could continue, hopefully. It might have been optimistic, but that was the intention. And Yukon Zinc would work with BCC San Francisco to ensure that the amount paid to BCC San Francisco under the drafts would only be what was owing under the line of credit, which is really what the intention was they said, initially. The idea was line of credit is only getting paid out. So that Yukon Zinc would work with BCC San Francisco to do that. 29 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE COURT: Why would they be tied to the line of credit since the line of credit was only 90 percent? They only want the 100 percent of what was shipped? MR. JACKSON: Yukon? THE COURT: Yes. MR. JACKSON: Yukon Zinc? THE COURT: Yes. MR. JACKSON: If everything was shipped, they want 100 percent. It was the shortfall and the recognition that they are going to end up having a whopping big payment by Shaanxi Zinc to Bank of Communications to retire -- the intention, the financing was arranged to retire the line of credit. The 90 percent is, I guess, the bank's conservative way of ensuring that it's secured adequately. As it turns out, way oversecured. But yes, I mean if they had delivered all the zinc concentrate then we wouldn't have this problem. I think this is the problem that's stopping the wheels on this whole thing, is you end up -- they see that they're heading down a path through April when these drafts come payable, they're going to have an overpayment. Paragraph 20. Yukon Zinc wasn't able to deal with the bank to get the drafts amended to pay only the amount under the letter of credit. So at the filing date it was known, or expected I should say, that the amount payable to BCC San Francisco under the drafts ^ would be more than the amount owing under the line of credit. Mr. Lu says -- goes on to say -- this is -- he says very firmly, between Shaanxi Zinc and Yukon Zinc, as far as those parties were concerned, and Yukon Zinc and Mr. Lu in particular, any overpayment was Shaanxi Zinc's money. He was perfectly satisfied with that. It was never intended to pay more than the line of credit at that point. So paragraph 21. The company had advised the monitor of the account, and the line of credit and the general arrangements among the parties. There is a reference at 6.9 of the monitor's report dated April 16th. Now, that's a very general understanding in terms of how it worked. And I think the monitor was a preliminary sort of investigation in terms of how 30 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 these arrangements work. As you see, it's not the simplest of arrangements. It's taken some time to get to the bottom. Forget what happened, just [indiscernible] the deal was and how the money would move. So it was premature to have any really in-depth reporting at that time. But the monitor made a -- I think it actually generally reflects what the deal was among the parties for the payments. But nobody advised the company -- the monitor of the anticipated overpayment. And he says that the reason for this is that he believed the overpayment belonged to and would be repaid to Shaanxi Zinc. His view was that was their money, and it would end up getting paid back to them because they would deal with BCC San Francisco to do that. What he goes on to say: In retrospect, and now having a better understanding of the process, and more specifically the company's duties, it is apparent that I should have advised the monitor of this matter. He had no intention of deceiving the monitor; he was just of a view that any overpayment would not be the property of the company. He might be right about that, but we'll never really know. It doesn't have to be figured out. He might be right about that, but that doesn't change -- he recognizes now, that doesn't change and he should have said to the monitor, hey, this is happening, we should probably look at it. I think with the benefit of discussions that have happened since, he understands -- what's very clear now is he understands that that was something he should have told the monitor about. So call that misguided understanding of his duties in terms of -- over how exactly evidence going on ^ ck, and given his very genuine belief that this wasn't the company's money. That was his reasons for it. So what happens is -- a lot of this next detail is sort of unnecessary in some sense -that is the crux of the issue is he simply failed to tell the monitor something that frankly I 31 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 think he should tell the monitor. And I don't think anyone disagrees with that. Mr. Lu certainly doesn't disagree with that now with the benefit of a better understanding of what's involved THE COURT: Yes. MR. JACKSON: What happens is it continues through mid-April that the drafts get paid on April 8th and 9th. Mr. Lu hears from -- the company doesn't have an online banking access is ^ BCC San Francisco. They don't even get statements from them. So there's a bit of a black box here. So they don't know exactly what's going on on a real-time basis, and they have to phone BCC San Francisco to find out. I think BCC San Francisco gets a little spooked during this process. They're contacted by the monitor. They're not sure what they're supposed to do. That's^ there's not a lot of information flow. But what happens is that Shaanxi Zinc tells Yukon Zinc that, hey, we've overpaid. They thought it was about 2 million bucks. This is at paragraph 22. And so Mr. Lu says, look, the accounting department -- work with BCC San Francisco, get the money back to Shaanxi Zinc, it's theirs. That happens in April. And there is a lot of communications among -- [indiscernible] and emails to BCC, communications trying to figure out how to do that. And nothing ever happens. I think BCC Communications, BCC San Francisco was trying to figure out what the heck it should do. May 1st there is an email from Jing Shi of the monitor to Ms. Rinker-Kan of BCC San Francisco -- this is paragraph 24 -- copied to Abby Zhao of the company's accounting department. But the monitor requests a loan balance. And Ms. Rinker-Kan replies and attaches a copy of that balance dated May 4th. It says there at the filing date there was about 25-, almost $26 million owing under the line of credit and as at May 1st there was nothing on it. That was the first communication from BCC San Francisco to either the company or the monitor saying that -confirming that this has been paid out. The company expected it, had heard from Shaanxi, and this was the first confirmation from BCC San 32 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 Francisco, May 5th -- May 4th. And it doesn't say anything about an overpayment then, notwithstanding that the company believed that there was one. You've already seen paragraph 24 about the netting. Paragraph 27, so mid-May now. This is after one of the hearings. Mr. Lu returns to China and meets with Mr. Xuebin He, the general manager of Shaanxi Zinc. Mr. He confirms that there is an overpayment. He noted that it hadn't yet been returned to Shaanxi Zinc, but that Shaanxi Zinc was working with both BCC Shaanxi and San Francisco to remedy the issue. And he still confirmed that his views with the overpayment was the property of Shaanxi Zinc and Mr. Lu agreed with that. So continuing in May, Mr. Lu is instructing several members of the accounting department, or other members of management, to continue making inquiries to find out what has happened with the line of credit, with the overpayment and to try to make sure that that overpayment was returned to Shaanxi Zinc. June 1st -- this is paragraph 29 -- the monitor contacted the company's legal counsel to advise that BCC San Francisco had additional funds which might belong to Yukon Zinc. So this is the first Mr. Lu hears that there had been confirmation. He had been told there was, he anticipated there was, but this was the first confirmation from anyone besides Shaanxi and his personal understanding based on the arrangements. The monitor asked the company to ensure that any funds would not be paid out pending a determination as to the source of the funds and who is entitled to them. So this is when -- so June 1st is when the real question comes up, hold on, there are some extra funds, don't let them go anywhere, don't direct them out here. And so at that point the company, with the monitor's advice -- and I want to be clear on this -- the first time the monitor says to the company, don't pay it out, the company says, no problem. They stop any efforts to have these funds paid out because they appreciate now there is some potential that Yukon 33 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. Zinc has an interest in it and the monitor has concern about that. COURT: How did the monitor become aware of it? JACKSON: You'll see that -- the monitor has been communicating with Bank of Communications directly. COURT: Oh, I see. JACKSON: BCC San Francisco. And so, in fact, what's sort of interesting is BCC San Francisco seemed to have very little difficulty communicating with the monitor, not so much with the company. And so a lot of the information that the company was getting from BCC San Francisco was through the monitor. Which is why the company's learning these things sort of on being copied on emails from BCC San Francisco to the monitor. Mr. Lu says in here they were really dealing with -- they were making inquiries, and they were told that they are considering it internally, they would get back to them, and they weren't returning calls. The general manager wasn't returning calls. And it was like that. In any event, on June 8th, again Ms. Zhao at the company gets copied with an email from Ms. Rinker-Kan to Jing Shi at PwC attaching a letter. And that letter was at paragraph 31. We call it the "excess funds letter." It shows a credit balance banker acceptance information for Yukon Zinc Corporation. I'll show you that letter. It's at Exhibit L, page 80 in your ... COURT: Yes. JACKSON: And so you'll see this email at the top is dated June 8th. It's from Ms. Rinker-Kan copied to Abby Zhao. And you'll see below that there are emails. The company copied. It's PwC dealing with Ms. Rinker-Kan. So just a quick look at the facts -- the evidence to the comment that I had about the bank communicating with the monitor quite willingly, which is not a bad thing. That's a good thing, of course. It's just that it wasn't happening with the company. Page 86 is the actual, what do you call it, credit balance banker acceptance information. Some of these terms I don't know where they come up from. But page 86. And if you look at the very bottom of that, it talks remaining effort, 34 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 debit for legal fees, and there was a bit of a fight about that because they wanted some more funds for anticipated legal fees. Remaining USD balance payable to -- not payable to -- balance to Yukon Zinc is $4.376 million US. Now, that's the first time that that number shows up. And at that point those funds aren't -- you'll see, it's balance to Yukon Zinc. They're not Yukon Zinc's monies at this point. THE COURT: They're still in the suspense account. MR. JACKSON: Correct. In fact, it was only very recently that they moved out of that suspense account, because there was a dispute about the legal fees that I mentioned that went on for a while and the bank said, until you get that resolved, you won't get them. So back at paragraph 2, My Lady, is exactly that point that Mr. Lu makes that he says these funds were in a suspense account and Yukon Zinc had no access to or control over that account. Paragraph 33 is the reconciliation. I don't need to take you through it again. You understand the basis for the overpayment. It was the fact that the line of credit was for 90 percent of the value of the drafts. And there is also a favourable conversion over the course of that year. So in all the CNY, reminbi, get paid over to Bank of Communications, that is not 6.6 any more, it's 6.1 conversion, so there is a bit of a bump on that too. Paragraph 34. Early June -- this is all happening in early June now. This is leading up to the last application on June 12th. This was further discussions between the company and Yukon Zinc regarding the funds -- sorry; the company and Shaanxi Zinc. Shaanxi Zinc is pretty hot about the idea that these are their funds and Mr. Lu doesn't disagree. But based on his discussions at this point now that he's had the benefit of having discussions with the monitor and its legal counsel, the company's legal counsel, he begins to appreciate that there is a dispute and that there is a concern that these funds have to be dealt with in a way that makes sense to everyone. I mean maybe they do go to Shaanxi Zinc, but you don't want to do that without the monitor being okay with it. And he 35 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 comes to understand that that is important. So what happens is they have discussions. And I think it's recognized -- this is when JDC gets involved and realized that it's pretty important that these funds become available to the company, and even if they might be Shaanxi Zinc's, maybe something can be worked out to make sure that Shaanxi Zinc isn't unduly prejudiced here. And so JDC, and Shaanxi Zinc and the company enter into what's called the "tripartite agreement" dated June 12th. And that agreement's attached at Exhibit M. I don't really need to take you to it, My Lady. It's at page 88. And it's with the benefit of legal counsel all around here. But that agreement says Shaanxi Zinc releases any interest it has in the excess funds, and JDC Canada agrees to guarantee Yukon Zinc's general obligations, not just the 5 million -this is paragraph 30, it says: All of its obligations under the purchase agreement, the payment of the amount of the excess funds to Shaanxi Zinc. THE MR. THE MR. And it grants a security interest in its -- in ALLPAAP in favour of Shaanxi Zinc to secure that. COURT: Who's granting the security interest? JACKSON: JDC Canada. COURT: JDC Canada. JACKSON: Yes. So call it security over security. That's really what they get out of this. That's what JDC Canada has. So it's first amounts coming off of its recovery. We go to Shaanxi Zinc based on this, all the obligations under that purchase agreement, which is more than just the overpayment, actually. But the results of the company is that it frees up that 5 million bucks. Shaanxi Zinc says, good enough for us and releases its interest at that point. So that's right on the day of the last hearing which is why is I was able to come here and say, good news, we have an agreement, there's money available to fund these operations without having to prejudice creditors any further by borrowing. At the very last paragraph here, 38, I guess I should say, is just on terms of timing. It 36 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. wasn't until June 18th, so last Thursday, that the full amount of the funds less the legals were paid over to Yukon Zinc's BCC San Francisco account. It wasn't until June 22nd, so Monday, that they actually made their way into the Bank of Montreal account in Vancouver. But now they're in the Bank of Montreal account in Vancouver, there's no restrictions and they're available for use, and you'll see them reflected in the cash flow, My Lady. COURT: So what is the actual amount held now? JACKSON: It's 4.3-. COURT: US? JACKSON: Yes, 4.3- US, whatever the conversion effect. Given that number and the way the dollar has been going, it's up or down by $50,000 every hour. But 4.3- US is the right number. COURT: Okay. JACKSON: So that's that, My Lady. The monitor has reported on their investigation as well into this. And as I say, I think they are in agreement that the description of the underlying transaction giving rise to the overpayment is right. I don't think we have to take you through that again. They can tell you their conclusions in terms of -- in terms of what the company did. I think that the end result of all of this is, yeah, the company should have done better in terms of disclosure. There's nothing that can be said about that other than a better appreciation of their duties and perhaps understanding that just because the company thinks that it belongs to someone else doesn't mean that they shouldn't tell the monitor about it. Mr. Lu is duly chastised. He appreciates that now. There has been an awful lot of discussion about that since this has come up. He has -- he expressly said in his affidavit that he now understands that he should have told the monitor about the anticipated overpayment. You know, I think you take the positive out of this, well, first of all, when the monitor found out about this and said they're concerned, he did everything that he was supposed to do at that point. He made sure that they took no further steps to pay money out to Shaanxi Zinc. He worked with the monitor and he worked with Shaanxi Zinc and the company to 37 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE THE try and figure something out that would then, notwithstanding his understanding of the use of those funds or who owned them, that they would make those funds available to the company and its creditors. So he actually took it one step further and the company actually managed to make those funds available. And that can't be lost in this. This is $5 million that goes a long way to eliminating prejudice to creditors in terms of these proceedings. I mean if you look at the cash flow, which I can take you to after the break, My Lady, you can see that the end -- or mid-September, there's still $3 million in free cash. And everything crashed to a halt then. That more than pays out the interim funding. That can't be lost in all this. So there we are, My Lady, and I will leave it to the monitor later to comment on that to the extent necessary. Of course, Ms. Buttery will take you through the report. I'm mindful of the time. COURT: Yes, would now be an appropriate time for the morning break? JACKSON: Yes. COURT: Thank you. CLERK: Order in chambers. Chambers is adjourned for the morning recess. (PROCEEDINGS RECESSED AT 11:40 A.M.) (PROCEEDINGS RECONVENED AT 12:05 P.M.) MR. JACKSON: Thank you, My Lady. Just picking up, I have -- I will be very brief and then we can let other people speak. I was going to take you to the cash flow very quickly. There's not a lot to tell you apart from this little detail around -- to show you what [inaudible] -THE COURT: This is the monitor's sixth report, then? MR. JACKSON: It is. At tab 9. And it's the last page of that. It goes to the prejudice here really which is -- you know, we've been saying that -- we're trying to eliminate as much prejudice as possible. And there's a couple of points apart from taking out -- JDC taking out the main -- the main claimant. If you look at the receipts over the period 38 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 here there's 400 -- almost a $500,000 receipt in this -- this week which is received. It's all from one sale of some concentrate which the price was favourable and it resulted in about $500,000. Now that, pursuant to the ARIO, that money -it's restricted, so it's being paid into the monitor's account, and it will sit there pending a determination as to whether -- for example, lien claimants have an interest in it. And of course, Maynards will have an interest in that. There's also another pre-filing account receivable they expect to get some time in July of $300,000. So if you look at it, there's about $825,000 of receivables here over the next month, which is great. It helps to pay down some of the claims here that might be in priority. So that's good. In terms of the ongoing costs, it's really -- if you look at the operating costs, it's just what you do for storage and maintenance and ongoing care and maintenance. And over the period, if you look -- we're not seeking an extension to go to the 18th of September, but the cash flow goes to that. It's about $1.2 million for surface maintenance, which is really the big cost over the next period of time. There's some insurance and other costs. But that's the big one. And that's consistent with sort of the expectations so far, and that's the ongoing cost. But happily you can see it's not overwhelming and there's enough cash. I will come to that in a moment. Office costs are another 500-, $600,000. That's all the way through to September 18th. You can cut that almost in half, stopping before that. The closing cash is the interesting part here. Because of the $5 million -- it's actually -- if you look at the first one, the actual, March 13th to June 19th receipts, it's about 5.3 is the million dollar transfer, that's the total. You asked what the number was in Canadian. It's shown there at 5.3-. Right in the first column. Under "actual," at the top under "receipts." THE COURT: Yes, I see. Thank you. MR. JACKSON: There you go. So it's about 5.3 million 39 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 now is about to transfer in. So that -- you know, that puts us at a closing cash balance at June 19th of $5.6 million. And if you take that all the way through to the end of September you have 3.23-. If you go to August, it's 4.24-. So that cash means the company has lots of money to be able to continue operating here, and it's free cash which is not under any restriction, it's not prioritized to anyone. It's an unusual situation, frankly, in my experience, but a nice one to have when you are trying to explain that there is a point to carrying this on and that the prejudice is de minimus here because, in fact, nobody is being asked to bear charges going ahead of them, and there is going to be a lot of cash as a result of that transaction which was effected last -- or two weeks ago, that tripartite agreement that if and when this [indiscernible] ever does [indiscernible] created, that you end up having an awful lot more cash which means that you can eliminate an awful lot of the problem, particularly I say the interim one discharges which is the one we have an eye on at $2.2 million. It doesn't change. It stays at 2.2-. I think it's somewhat higher than that because there is interest and fees, and Mr. Brousson I'm sure will tell you that. But that's the good news on that. Two other things. I said about the contract identification process, you had asked whether this was a -- was an automatic disclaimer process. It's not except monitor's counsel correctly noted to me at the break that there is a provision in the order -- and Ms. Buttery will take you through the order -- that says that if you don't give notice of your executory contract by the bar date for executory contracts, that you can't later assert that you have one. So there is in some sense a bar built into the order that prevents someone from later asserting that they have a contract with the company. So I guess to a certain extent it would be that there is an order which contemplates -- affecting people's rights in that way, but it's not an automatic disclaimer; it's just a bar by the claim. So that's built in there. And that's part of the reason we're being so broad in terms of the 40 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 notice we're trying to give to people to try and solicit these proofs. And the only other thing I want to mention is the order that we have builds in two dates. And I had mentioned this in brief, but I just highlight them. And that is July 31st, which is -- that's the date that the company has to tell the monitor whether or not it's proceeding with a plan which has got the support of JDC. That has to be done in writing. That's the first thing. I think Mr. Porter suggested, when I was in discussion with him at one point, that it might be appropriate to have the monitor give a report on that, and it seems to me that that's something that they could report on very easily, what they received. I don't have a problem with that. And if the court's direction to the monitor is to do that, no problem from us, in that it may be something that they would do anyways. One of the things I was going to ask you about was dates, because with the royalty agreements we anticipate that if it can't be resolved that it will need some dates to determine whether or not those types of agreements can be terminated in a CCAA, and should be pursuant to the disclaimers. And we're thinking end of July, though I gather Mr. Collins might not be available, so I thought they would dovetail, but it won't, I don't think. Either way, that's the first date. August 14th is the second proposed date, and again, this one's subject to Your Ladyship's availability, I suppose, or your directions as to how we proceed. Because that is the date that we are proposing to have the stay extend. That is the date by which the company would come back if it's going to do a plan, with a plan seeking a meeting order at that time. If we have to move that in order to have Your Ladyship hear the application, we're fine with that, although we can't do it the week before. It would have to be during that week or some time after. And if -we can talk about that later, My Lady. If you are of the mind that it's just a meeting order, it may not be necessary strictly given that there won't be a whole lot that really happens of a 41 Submissions by Mr. Jackson 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 substantive -THE COURT: I'll get my calendar by the time we return after the lunch break. But my recollection is that I am supposed to be in Dawson Creek that week which is likely to go ahead. But I can do it over the phone if it's uncontested in the usual way. MR. JACKSON: You would hope so. Anyway, that's what we're thinking. THE COURT: All right. MR. JACKSON: That's it for me, My Lady. I should pass the -THE COURT: All right. So that addresses the four matters; the stay, the claims process which Mr. Toigo will go through the details of that, the monitor control issues. And there is an agreed wording in terms of what that looks like. MR. JACKSON: There is. And I have -- would you like to see it right now, My Lady? THE COURT: Well, I did get a blackline of an order. Is it all incorporated -MR. JACKSON: We made a couple of small changes since then, but that language hasn't changed. So it would be in there. In the order that you have. THE COURT: In the blackline. MR. JACKSON: In the blackline, yes. I think it's the top of page 3, paragraph 8. THE COURT: Monitor's authority. MR. JACKSON: Yes. So there are two things in that. One of them was this idea of putting the monitor's consent on expenditures of $5,000 or more. That might be slightly window dressing, My Lady. I think you will hear the monitor say that they've basically been getting the company running any expenditures by them anyways. But it's something to address, a concern that comes out of the disclosure issue. As I say, it's something that that might be appropriate to give comfort to the court and to the stakeholders. The second part is about the monitor reviewing offers, negotiating offers, accepting offers, subject to the right of the company to put forward a restructuring plan. THE COURT: All right. And the employee charges are in here and then -MR. JACKSON: Paragraph 5 says Ms. Toigo. There it is. 42 Submissions by Mr. Wang 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE COURT: I see. Okay. Well, do you have a clean copy of this, Mr. Jackson? With the schedules? MR. JACKSON: I do. I have a clean copy here which has been vetted, and I have a blacklined which actually shows all the changes to the one that was circulated. As I say, there were a couple of small points. THE COURT: Okay. So I can get rid of this. MR. JACKSON: You can probably get rid of that. I don't think you need to refer to that. I don't know if you want to go through it point by point now, and Ms. Toigo might be the better person to do that. THE COURT: I think I'll wait and hear from everyone else on that point. MR. JACKSON: Sure. THE COURT: Okay. MR. JACKSON: Thank you, My Lady. THE COURT: All right. Thank you. Now, who wishes to go next? MR. BROUSSON: My Lady, do you want to hear from the [indiscernible] application first? THE COURT: Yes, that might be appropriate, Mr. Brousson. MR. BROUSSON: As usual -THE COURT: Yes, if you could. MR. BROUSSON: I can be very quick, My Lady. As you know, I act for the DIP lender in this matter and my instructions are that we do support the extension. The balance we don't have any position on. The -- maybe its overkill. I've heard my friend make submissions today a number of times stating that the facility will not be drawn down further, and I have heard -- it's in the cash flow and some of the other materials. I am just going to state again for the record, that's the understanding upon which we support the extension that there won't be further drawdowns. So those are my submissions now. THE COURT: Thank you. Mr. Wang. MR. WANG: My Lady, JDC Canada is in support with the order sought. My friend Mr. Jackson has indicated the various steps that my client has taken in dealing with its own parent and other affiliates and in getting the process through, 43 Submissions by Mr. Fitzpatrick Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. getting the money released, and generally helping the process forward. COURT: Thank you, Mr. Wang. Mr. Fitzpatrick, are you opposed? Or ... FITZPATRICK: Not opposed. We take no position one way or another. COURT: Anyone not opposed or in support? Well, I think let's hear the opposition side now, please. Is there anyone that's taking more of a lead than perhaps -JACKSON: My Lady, I had a discussion with counsel. Just as a suggestion, Mr. Siddall I think and others were just concerned about certain of the -- the effect of the order. If we go to that point that might be an appropriate time to hear on those points. I think if you're looking at whether or not we get an order today, that that would be, I guess, the threshold question. I think Mr. Collins is probably the only person -- sorry; one of two people who is actually opposing the extension. So if we didn't get that, I think we can avoid the other parts is what I am saying. And Stephens, I think is also going to be taking the same position. As a suggestion, you might want to go that way. I think that Mr. Collins would have lead on that. COURT: Okay. Mr. Collins? COLLINS: Yes, My Lady. COURT: I'm afraid you are going to have to speak up because -- so that everyone can hear you. COLLINS: How is that? COURT: That's better. Thank you. COLLINS: Thank you. And let me start by indicating that we didn't receive the monitor sixth report until 7:00 P.M. Pacific last night, and I'm not mentioning that to complain, only to advise Your Ladyship that I didn't have an opportunity to review it until this morning and seek instructions until this morning, and as will become apparent from submissions, the gravamen of that, it was contained in the monitor's report, only became apparent to us this morning. I otherwise would have appeared in person, My Lady, this morning, but was unable to get to Vancouver this morning. And the second reason for mentioning it was 44 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 prior to the receipt of the monitor's report, Royal Gold was minded to not oppose the relief being sought by the company today, but rather to appear to deal with scheduling matters. But it is the -- the contents of the monitor's sixth report, My Lady, that we wish to focus on. And I gather you have a copy of that at hand and have had an opportunity to review it? THE COURT: Yes, I have. MR. COLLINS: So, my initial impression -- and as the morning went on, was one of shock, candidly. I had not seen a report of this nature with the approbation of being placed on a debtor company in a circumstance where they're seeking a stay extension. Royal Gold shares that view and is somewhat incredulous, My Lady, with what has transpired. In Royal Gold's submission, what the monitor has reported goes to the entire bona fides of Yukon Zinc and directly impacts its ability to convince the court to extend a stay of the proceedings today. By way of general overview, My Lady, I've listened to Yukon Zinc's submissions this morning, and if you hadn't read the monitor's report, one might be left with the impression that there were funds in a bank account in San Francisco that Yukon Zinc believed were the property of a related party, didn't tell the monitor about it, and when the monitor asked, Yukon Zinc said, oh, yeah, I guess you're right, we should have a look at that, and upon being pushed a bit, determined that the proper course of action was to patriate those funds properly back to Canada and into its possession. If that were the case, My Lady, I'm not certain that the statutory test with respect to the company acting in good faith would be met, but the explanations offered by Yukon Zinc may have been sufficient to convince the court that the company is acting in good faith. But that is not the case here, My Lady. From the monitor's report -- and we can go through it in a moment -what we're dealing with is a deliberate attempt by the company to conceal the existence of the funds and the inference is that if not for the good work of the monitor, in its investigation, the existence of these funds would have never 45 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 come to light and would never have been patriated. I am wondering if you can turn up, My Lady, page 6 of the report. THE COURT: Yes, I have that. Thank you. MR. COLLINS: Thank you, My Lady. I am looking at section 2.15.3, where the monitor reports that: On April 14th senior management of the company directed corporate staff not to advise the monitor of the excess funds until a final decision had been made on the return of the funds to Shaanxi Zinc as it would cause "much trouble." And then the monitor has the following conclusions based on that course of conduct, and they're summarized under the heading "Conclusions." Specifically 2.17: The company knew that the excess funds of at least 2 million existed on or before April 14th, 2015 and would likely be payable to the company. And in 2.19: The company appears to have deliberately concealed from the monitor the existence of the excess funds and its attempts to return the excess funds to Shaanxi Zinc. As I've indicated, My Lady, they have found that fact that has been investigated by the monitor to be quite extraordinary and exceptional. The monitor reports at page 4, My Lady, at paragraph 2.8, that it only became aware of the excess funds when it was notified by BCC San Francisco by email on May 29th, 2015. So again, far from an inadvertent misunderstanding of what the company's duties are, and a subsequent attempt to correct them. On a plain reading of the monitor's report we have a situation where the company has actively attempted to not disclose the existence of a significant amount of property, and that cannot be actions that support the contention that the company is acting in good 46 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 faith. The stay -- the test, My Lady, as you are well aware -- but I think we need to turn to it for a moment, because it underscores the gravity of the situation, is in section 11.02(3). And again, I apologize, obviously not being in person I don't know if My Lady has the statute in front of her. THE COURT: No, I don't. But you can read it to me, Mr. Collins. MR. COLLINS: Sure. So section 11.02 deals with applications subsequent to the initial order for the extension of the stay. The marginal notes read "burden of proof on application," and sub (3) reads: The court shall not -And I underline the word "shall not," My Lady: -- make the order unless the applicant satisfies the court that circumstances exist that make the order appropriate. That's in connection with an order for -- an application for an initial order. And sub (b): In the case of an order under subsection (2), the applicant also satisfies the court that the applicant has acted, and is acting, in good faith and with due diligence. The test that's well understood by the court, but perhaps today we would have to underscore that test. This is a bright line test. The applicant has to satisfy you, My Lady, that it has been acting in good faith and with due diligence. And if you are not satisfied, My Lady, whatever the circumstances that might ensue if an order isn't granted, whatever the circumstances, if you are not satisfied that the applicant has been acting in good faith, then an order under section 11.02 cannot be made. Parliament has described the test and consideration of there seemingly being no alternative if an order is made doesn't allow 47 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 for a continuation of the CCAA proceedings in this case. Just by way of brief elaboration, the breadth and extent of the stay of proceedings, CCAA proceedings generally is extraordinary. As we all know, it overrides statutory, contractual and arguably propriety rights on the theory that the violence done to those parties and counterparties is offset by the benefit of a restructuring and insolvent enterprise. And as an aside, I note that historically before we got into liquidating CCAA the justification and the interpretation of the broad power of the court to order a stay of proceedings by courts was that the objective of preserving jobs and going-concern entities supported the granting of a stay of proceedings. As we transition into an era, My Lady -- and I think it's fair to say that there's no dispute any longer with respect to the ability of a company to utilize the statute to liquidate or to deal with financial stakeholders only. As we transition into that era one thing has been constant, and that is parliament has not seen fit to change or derogate from the prescribed at 11.02(3)(b), that is to say even in the circumstance where there may be a liquidation, in order for the company to be entitled to the benefit of the stay of proceedings, the court has to be satisfied that the company is acting in good faith. And the reason for this is clear, in Royal Gold's submission, My Lady. It's the precondition to the indication -- and in this case the continued indication of the relief -- is that the debtor is acting in good faith. And this is a recognition, we would submit, that parliament says that if you are not acting in good faith it is an abuse of process to continue to shield yourself from claims through a stay and that the court cannot countenance such an abuse of process. And that's reflected in the statute in the mandatory wording that the court shall not extend the stay unless it's satisfied that the company is acting in good faith. If we go back, then, to what the monitor has reported in its investigation, it had this 48 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 circumstance where there has been an active attempt by the company to conceal the existence of an asset from the creditors. It simply, My Lady, cannot be taken to be good faith. It is the opposite of good faith. I pause and note as well that under section 24 of the CCAA -- and this is a relatively new section -- it reads: Right of access 24. For the purposes of monitoring the company’s business and financial affairs, the monitor shall have access to the company’s property, including the premises, books, records, data, including data in electronic form, and other financial documents of the company, to the extent that is necessary to adequately assess the company’s business and financial affairs. So there is a statutory provision that requires that the monitor be granted access to books and records. And in this case -- in this case what is troubling is the fact that the company may have provided access to its books and records, but took proactive steps -- proactive steps, and in the words of the monitor, to deliberately conceal from it the existence of this asset in this way. So we have a circumstance where the company has sought protection, and we've had discussions around the otherwise bona fides of this supposed restructuring. But the matter bumps along. But the company sought protection, continues to seek the stay, the rights of its creditors and counterparties, continues to utilize the provisions to prejudice the rights of parties like Royal Gold with respect to its royalty interest. And yet takes active steps to conceal the existence of assets and to not -- to not provide proper oversight to the eyes and ears of the court-appointed monitor so the monitor can report on this. Let's make no mistake here. It is only through the good work that the monitor did that this money has not been patriated somewhere else other than [indiscernible]. And the monitor 49 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 needs to be commended for its efforts here. It has certainly done its job. But, that fact in and of itself does not -- does not, when we look at the statute, entitle this company to an extension of the stay of proceedings. I haven't heard from counsel for the monitor formally as to its support for the extension of the stay of proceedings, but we read in the report in terms of the recommendations, My Lady, and they're at page 18, article 10 -- or section 10.8. Do you have that before you, My Lady? THE COURT: Yes, I do. MS. BUTTERY: It says: With respect to the company acting in good faith and with due diligence the monitor has grave concerns with the company's actions regarding the excess funds. I'll pause there, and again, My Lady, in your experience as well I'm sure, I have not read in a circumstance like this where -- a company seeking a stay of an extension where the court officer is expressing grave concerns with the conduct of the company. That speaks volumes in Royal Gold's submission. The monitor says: Notwithstanding that concern the monitor is of a view that on balance the company is generally acting with sufficient good faith and due diligence that the relief sought is appropriate. This view is found in part based on the increased powers of the monitor being sought. In any event, the monitor believes the relief being sought and the continuation of the solicitation process is in the best interests of the creditors generally. I would pause there, My Lady, to say that it is solely within the province of Your Ladyship to make the determination as to whether or not the company is acting in good faith or continues to act in good faith. And I understand that the monitor has formed a view that it's for the 50 Submissions by Mr. Stephens 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. benefit of the creditors for this proceeding to continue and that there is no alternatives but for the proceeding to continue. But the statutory test, and the application of the test, rests with you, My Lady. And on the basis of that which the monitor has investigated and reported to the court, including of course a deliberate concealment of assets mandates that the test simply isn't met here. And it's for those reasons, My Lady, that Royal Gold opposes the application to extend the stay of proceedings. I will be happy to address any questions. COURT: That's fine, Mr. Collins. I don't have any questions for you. Thank you. COLLINS: Thank you. COURT: Madam Clerk, are you -- Mr. Stephens, how long are you going to be? STEPHENS: Five, ten minutes. COURT: Madam Clerk, are you okay to go a little further? Yes. That's fine. Thank you. STEPHENS: My Lady, as I said at the outset, our firm was first called about this matter about 3:00 P.M. yesterday. CLERK: My Lady [inaudible]. STEPHENS: I did not anticipate taking a substantive position here today, but having heard what I heard this morning, I could not sit back and not take a substantive position, and indeed on behalf of my clients, oppose the extensions sought by the petitioners. It is clear, in my submission, that the petitioners did not simply fail to inform the monitor of this so-called excess funds issue, and according to the monitor's report as of April 15th, 2015, the company was aware that it had a claim to these funds, at the very least under the terms of the credit facility. And that's at the monitor's report, section 2 -COURT: Mr. Collins just took me to that a few moments ago, Mr. Stephens, so it's fresh in my mind. STEPHENS: Okay. Which is directly contradictory to Mr. Lu's evidence that he only considered these funds to be Shaanxi Zinc's property. He was at least aware that his company had a claim to these funds. He made a conscious decision not 51 Submissions by Mr. Stephens 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 to inform the monitor about the fund or its potential claim, and made express instructions to that effect -- the senior management made express instructions to that effect to the staff, and then attempted to surreptitiously, without the monitor's knowledge, cause the bank to pay the funds to Shaanxi Zinc. And in my submission these actions are not consistent with an innocent but mistaken belief that these funds constituted Shaanxi Zinc's property. I note here that the petitioners sought and obtained the extraordinary relief of DIP financing. As I understand it from Mr. Brousson, it's currently in the range of 2.4 million and certainly has a double digit interest rate. Of course, this was done in circumstances where, and to the prejudice of the petitioner's creditors, that the company had 4.3 million of its total money. THE COURT: I don't think anybody, even on April 14th, would have said that was money in the bank that was available for them, even by the monitor's description of the matter on that date. It said it would likely be payable to the company, but it was -- I think it's well conceded, is it not, that it was in an suspense account? In those circumstances -MR. STEPHENS: There were -- I think it's fair to say, there was at least a claim, a possibility, that this company could have financed itself in these proceedings, and in those circumstances rather than explore those claims or inform the monitor of those claims, sought to obtain DIP financing. So, My Lady, Mr. Lu's explanation for Yukon Zinc's actions, such as it is, is that Yukon Zinc did not understand its duties in these proceedings and the role of the monitor. And I simply make the point that for that evidence to be believed we must necessarily conclude that its counsel did not inform it of its duties and the role of the monitor at the outset of these proceedings, knowing Mr. Jackson would be very slow to reach that conclusion. My Lady, if I go much further I would be repeating Mr. Collins, even though those are my submissions, and certainly on behalf of my clients this application is opposed, My Lady. 52 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE COURT: Well, maybe I could ask this question to you and to Mr. Collins too: If the stay is not continued, what do you foresee is going to happen now? MR. STEPHENS: My Lady, at this point -- excuse me -THE COURT: Not that it's your role to dictate what happens going forward, but if the stay is not continued, then what do you see as being what happens into the future, particularly in terms of your client's position? MR. STEPHENS: I should say that I have read the monitor's report sitting in court, heard Mr. Jackson's submissions. I heard what Mr. Jackson said about the affidavit, but not having had a chance to read it. So I am probably the last person who should comment on that, but I understand my clients have an in rem property interest, and that should carry through. MR. COLLINS: My Lady, I have given that, obviously, a great deal of thought in the limited time that we've had available. And obviously Royal Gold hasn't had sufficient time to react with an application of its own in connection with the startling revelation contained in the monitor's sixth report. But let me say this: My understanding is that there are no offers to purchase the company as a going concern or to purchase the mine as a going concern. There are offers to purchase certain of the mining assets. As well, My Lady, what we've heard from Yukon Zinc since the inception of these proceedings is, just give us a little bit of time, maybe the parent will come with their cheque book and sort this all out for us. And now we've heard that we're inching closer to that, that they are apparently coming next week. In my view, My Lady, if the stay of proceedings isn't extended today, that would lead naturally to a termination of these CCAA proceedings. Yukon Zinc would continue in possession and control of its assets and undertaking. And I would think that a properly advised board in that circumstance would -- if it's able to deal with insolvency issues through an infusion of cash from its parent, or through resources that it has on hand, would do so or if it wasn't able to do so, the responsible thing 53 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. for the board of Yukon Zinc would be to either assign the property to a trustee in bankruptcy and have a trustee in bankruptcy administer the estate and claims, or deal with some other process such as a receivership. But given -given the evidence that the parent is attending to seemingly determine whether it wishes to do something, I would submit, My Lady, that the clear inference is that the sky will not fall if these proceedings are terminated, and in fact, the salutary benefit of the proceedings not being terminated is that it will put parent to the election immediately to deal with the problems that are attendant with this mine at this point in time. And the simple fact of the matter is, is that is the right outcome in this case, because the company is not entitled to an extension of the stay of proceedings. COURT: I don't want to hear your argument again, Mr. Collins. COLLINS: Sorry, My Lady. COURT: My question was quite directed in terms of what you saw as the outcome of your -- your opposition. COLLINS: I imagine -- I imagine people will say the sky will fall, that you will have a situation where there is no longer a controlled process without the benefit of the stay. But I don't see it as coming down that way at all, My Lady. And indeed, with more time to react, then if there are significant concerns with respect to stakeholders taking action, then certainly it's in Royal Gold's interest to ensure that someone is running the sales process and continuing to deal with the affairs to the extent that Yukon Zinc can, and it may be that Royal Gold will be in a position to bring something forward to the court. COURT: Okay. Thank you. Would now be an appropriate time for the lunch break? Mr. Jackson? JACKSON: Absolutely, My Lady. My only -- it's a personal matter. I have a hard deadline of 2:30 myself. Ms. Toigo can be here this afternoon. And I apologize to the court. It's unavoidable. I just can't miss it. And that's fine. If we 54 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 start up at 2:00 o'clock, Ms. Toigo can handle that. I can make some submissions in reply in that time to this part of the application and the opposition generally. If the court's minded to start even 15 minutes earlier, I would be indebted, but I don't intend to impose on Your Ladyship and have everyone here ... THE COURT: We'll start at 1:30, then, Mr. Jackson. That will give us a fighting chance to get done before then. Thank you. THE CLERK: Order in chambers. Chambers is adjourned for lunch. (PROCEEDINGS RECESSED AT 12:43 P.M.) (PROCEEDINGS RECONVENED AT 1:34 P.M.) MR. JACKSON: My Lady, we had a discussion before you came in about who might go next. And I think I mentioned at the beginning that Mr. Porter wasn't opposing the application, but he did have some comments and they may be stringent comments, I'm not sure, but he indicated that it might be appropriate to go next. I'm fine with that, of course, and I can reply. THE COURT: Yes. That's fine. Mr. Porter. MR. PORTER: Thank you very much, My Lady. Sorry; I may be somewhat out of sequence because I inadvertently broke off just before Mr. Collins' submissions. You were canvassing for comments, that's where you missed me. But it's proven, I think, My Lady, to be a more interesting morning for you, and an interesting afternoon for me in view of those submissions that have been made. I originally had thought that with Mr. Sandrelli gone I would be the only voice expressing concerns, but we're hearing a lot more than expressions of concerns. I want to be clear about our position: We have very serious, I think even grave concerns, about what has taken place and where we find ourselves right now. And it's not just the $4.3 million issue, it's also the conduct of the parent company and its continued -- what I described I think last time as coyness about where it stands and what it intends to do. And meanwhile time is passing and people are -- I 55 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 think the monitor, for example, in particular, are making I think almost heroic efforts, I think, to make the best it can out of a very difficult situation in terms of negotiating with parties, and actually the sales process. YG, of course, I think supports that process, and I think the monitor's to be commended for the work it's done in that regard. When it comes to how we proceed, I think what I would like to express my support is for the monitor rather than the company. And I think the monitor in the last paragraph of its report expresses the concerns that we have, but in essence says in these circumstances there is sufficient good faith that the relief sought is appropriate. And I think it goes on to say -and this is the part that I think is particularly important -- that the relief being sought, a continuation of the process, is in the best interests of the creditors generally. I stress generally. I think there may be individual positions that may not be. But I think there has been sufficient progress made, and we seem to be coming towards, I hope, a resolution in the near future, that to throw out the baby with the bath water at this point I think would be a mistake. And I think this is particularly the case with the monitor getting the enhanced powers contemplated in this form of order, and I think that if the court is to look to the monitor to continue in the course it's taken, I think it's the best thing for everybody. And I speak to a certain extent out of self-interest, because you will have seen in the monitor's report that there is work continuing to take place with care and maintenance. I think the budget contemplates I think $1.2 million being spent. There's employee bonuses that are being contemplated as part of this process. And if we bring this whole process to a halt now, I think there are very substantial questions as to what's going to happen to those sorts of endeavours, to the sales process, the time, effort and money that has been put into that process by the monitor. I think a lot of good work, frankly, will be lost. So, although I'm not an ally of the company, as I say, I would align myself with the monitor 56 Submissions by Mr. Collins 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE in its submissions about I think from the perspective of the stakeholders it's the best to continue where we are now. The caveat I was going to ask before I found myself in this position was that we have these post-filing claims that I alluded to before. There's $1.3 million in security deposits that come due I think the last -- the next piece comes due June 30th that brings that total to 1.3 million. There's the property tax installment that's due as of I believe -Ms. Henderson can confirm this -- as of July 2nd. It's substantial. I think it's in the order of $736,000. And what's going to happen -- what you're going to be hearing from me is that if those payments are not covered I intend to bring a motion for a declaration that they are post-filing obligations, and I intend to do that sooner rather than later. So I think the company and the parent need to have the fire put under them to make decisions about what they want to do and how we go forward. And I think that -- perhaps setting up parameters like that for them to try to bring more discipline and keep them focused on the issues I think is a good thing towards getting some kind of result that all the stakeholders will see some benefit from. I think with that, those are really my submissions about it. It's not a full-hearted blow towards the company, but as I say, it's a little support for the monitor and the work it has been doing. Those are my submissions. COURT: Thank you, Mr. Porter. Mr. Louman-Gardiner, do you have any submissions to make? LOUMAN-GARDINER: Not on this issue, My Lady. It [inaudible] process order. COURT: I see. Okay. And Mr. Siddall or Mr. Boucher? BOUCHER: We haven't had time to get instructions from our client on this issue, so we don't have any submissions today. COURT: What I'd like to do, then, I'd like to hear from you, Ms. Buttery, on the good faith issue, if I can put it, because that seems to be 57 Submissions by Ms. Buttery 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. a preliminary issue beyond which if it's not resolved satisfactorily means the whole thing comes crashing to an end anyway. And then I'll hear from you, Mr. Jackson, on the reply on that issue, and then whatever the outcome of that is then we'll -- if there is a [indiscernible] outcome from the company's point of view, then we'll proceed further. BUTTERY: Yes, My Lady. I'll limit my comments simply to the excess funds issue and the related good faith issue that has been raised by Mr. Collins. COURT: Yes. BUTTERY: So the monitor's report is at tab 9 of the binder that is -COURT: I have actually incorporated the general index. BUTTERY: I don't have that index. COURT: I have got it here. BUTTERY: Okay. So the excess funds' issue, it starts to be discussed at page 2, actually. So it obviously -- it was [indiscernible] to the monitor. And I can advise the court just by way of preamble is two things: First of all, the company did co-operate with the monitor in its investigation of this issue. So what the monitor did uncover with respect to the funds and what occurred back in April is one thing, but to be clear, the company has been completely co-operative in the monitor's attempt to understand the facts. So I think that is worth noting. I also think that Mr. Jackson's summary of the fact that the company has been acting -becoming aware that they shouldn't have acted as they did with respect to the access funds, but have been acting very co-operatively and in good faith moving forward from that point, and the monitor has specifically asked me to echo that, that the company has been acting in good faith in the monitor's view subsequent to this circumstance. So the issue really comes down to, was it good faith or what did the company know or not know back in April? The monitor's report is, as accountants are, factual. There is not anecdotal discussion about 58 Submissions by Ms. Buttery 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 it, and in fact, the explanation for why the company did or what they believed is contained in Mr. Lu's affidavit that Mr. Jackson took you through in some detail. But the point is -- and there is no denying the fact that the company did know that there would be excess funds. I am over at page -- I am at page 5. And then over the page, they did know that it was in suspense account. And they did know that there was a possibility that it could be payable to the company under the credit facility. Now, Mr. Jackson has told you that they believed it did belong to Shaanxi Zinc and that they were taking steps to effect what they perceived to be an overpayment. The real crux of the issue that Mr. Collins has raised is that there is evidence -- and this is 2.15.3, and Mr. Collins took you to it in some detail -- that senior management directed corporate staff not to advise the monitor about the excess funds, not forever. I will note that it says: Until a final decision had been made on the return of the funds to Shaanxi Zinc as it would cause much trouble. I do want to pause to say there is no suggestion -- and I think this is important because I don't want there to be a suggestion that Mr. Lu lied in his affidavits. There is no suggestion that Mr. Lu, who is the CEO and chairman of the company, knew of this, but merely that people in head office had had discussion about this. Then the next problematic paragraph for Mr. Collins is that the company attempted -- and that's 2.18, My Lady -- the company attempted to have the excess funds returned to Shaanxi Zinc as it believed that the excess funds were a result of an overpayment and not the rightful [indiscernible] of the company. Mr. Lu deposes to that. He has that in his affidavit. They tried to return the money. They didn't think it was theirs. It is obviously, as Mr. Jackson deposed -it has been explained to him that that wasn't his 59 Submissions by Ms. Buttery 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 determination to make, and even if it was going to cause much trouble, that the monitor ought to have been informed of it. And then, finally, the company appears to have deliberately concealed from the monitor the existence of the excess funds and its attempt to return the excess funds to Shaanxi Zinc. In essence it goes back to the point at 2.15.3 that some senior management had had an email discussion that they shouldn't let the monitor know until a decision had been made. But importantly -- in many respects it was explained by Mr. Lu's affidavit that Mr. Jackson took you to -- but more importantly it needs to be considered in the context of the monitor's overall view of whether the company is acting in good faith and with due diligence. And as you can guess, the monitor struggled a lot with the situation it found itself in, and the recommendations that it had to make in court. The monitor ultimately determined that good faith is a subjective test that can't be held to a standard of perfection. What we do have is a situation here where mistakenly, it appears, but that's for Mr. Jackson to speak to, that they shouldn't tell the monitor until they have figured out what they were doing. They did, however, co-operate when the monitor found out about it, and they didn't attempt, as far as we know, to hide this at that point. We also have the circumstance where they have co-operated subsequently and have agreed, and in fact, instructed their clients, their counsel, to seek expanded duties for the monitor. And in fact, Mr. Jackson has said that the oversight with respect to financial expenditures of anything over $5,000, which is a minuscule amount, My Lady, in comparison to the amounts we're talking about, was even actually already happening. The company was already reviewing all of its expenditures with the monitor, even though it really didn't have to, even in the normal course expenditures. As a result, the monitor spends, as you can imagine, a lot of time on its conclusion paragraph at 10.8 at tab 18. It isn't on the balance an ongoing concern of the monitor that 60 Submissions by Ms. Buttery 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. the company is not acting in good faith and due diligence. In the monitor's view the circumstance was an isolated incident. And on balance, the company is of the view that the company -- the monitor's of the view that the company is acting in good faith and with due diligence. COURT: What about on balance that they did act in good faith? Certainly there is a go-forward aspect to the test, but there is also a retrospective aspect to it also, is there not? BUTTERY: Right. The monitor does not believe -and of course, that would cause it to be a psychiatrist -- but does not believe that based on Mr. Lu's evidence that the decision not to tell the monitor about it was made in an attempt to defraud the creditors or to be sneaky, but rather misapprehension of the process, and its duties and obligations, and the extraordinary process. And as I state -COURT: The monitor uses the word -- I guess you don't use the word "conceal," do you? BUTTERY: Yes, we do. COURT: The issue deliberately concealed. BUTTERY: Yes. COURT: You're suggesting that that doesn't arise from any male fides, if I can put it like that? BUTTERY: The monitor has no -- the only evidence the monitor has as to why is what is deposed to in Mr. Lu's affidavit. And that's why I thought it was important to point out in the preceding paragraphs in the monitor's report, that when the monitor refers to "senior management," the monitor has no evidence that Mr. Lu participated in any of that or directed anyone to do that. He freely admits that he tried to get the money returned, but there's no -- nothing on Mr. Lu's part that he attempted to conceal it. So, with respect to Mr. Collins' comments about it is the court's determination as to whether the company's acting in good faith and due diligence, I accept that. Of course it is. It's always the court's determination in all of these issues. But the court is entitled to rely upon its own officer. And its own officer has balanced the circumstance that accord with 61 Submissions by Mr. Jackson (reply) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 respect to the access times having regard to all of the circumstances before and after, and that's why it very carefully shows the language that the company is generally acting with good -sufficient good faith to move forward. Those are my submissions on that. I have more to talk about ... THE COURT: Yes. Mr. Jackson? MR. JACKSON: Thank you, My Lady. I happily have little to really add to what Ms. Buttery had to say. I actually hadn't seen this report until last night, and -- much like everyone else, actually this morning -- we had discussions leading up to it about all of the circumstances and what the monitor -- how the monitor viewed this. And, you know, without getting too far down that path, we understood the monitor was supportive and that they generally saw this -- I think -- let me say this: I think Ms. Buttery maybe at one point put it well, which is to say, it's not a standard of perfection. So has acted in good faith. There is no doubt that the company was less than perfect in its disclosure obligations. I think that is explained by Mr. Lu. It's a misapprehension in part of those, and it's a -perhaps a misguided view as to whose funds those were without thinking that that is something that should be concerning the monitor. And they should have. So accepting that, as simplifying -- not simplifying it -- finding that that was the case doesn't necessitate a finding that there is bad faith. That may be evidence towards bad faith; may be evidence away from good faith. It doesn't mean -- your finding isn't has there ever been any instance of bad faith or behaviour by the company? That's not what Your Ladyship has to do. You have to be satisfied that they have acted in good faith. It doesn't say in every instance, it says generally, I think, you would have to look at it. So when Ms. Buttery says it's not a standard of perfection, I think in any file you're going to find reasons, as people always do, to criticize management for something they've done. 62 Submissions by Mr. Jackson (reply) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 And the court may be less than pleased about what management has done in any instance in any CCAA proceeding, but that doesn't mean that they've added in bad faith. The court has to be satisfied, as the monitor is, that they have generally acted in good faith. So I don't disagree, My Lady, that this was less than perfect disclosure, and not ideal. That to me doesn't say that they haven't acted in good faith. If you look at what the monitor said throughout, they have been co-operative. They have been doing what they should be doing in terms of giving access to directors and having discussions with the monitor and direct and detailed, minuscule oversight of what they have been doing. So you can't take it in isolation. There are a couple of factual issues that were raised by my friends in their submissions and one thing to be clear was that we know that, and Your Ladyship is alive to the fact, these funds weren't available to the company. We couldn't have used the funds up until June. When the application came on for the interim financing, that was before where the overpayment was made. So when my friend Mr. Stephens said they didn't need interim financing, these excess funds, this overpayment wasn't even in a suspense account. It hadn't even been made yet. That application was in March. This didn't happen until mid-May. In April, I should say to set a timeline for accuracy. And I think just to be fair, to address Mr. Porter's comments, there's nothing really that I think is totally unfair except to say that the continued allegation that the parent is being coy I think is a little bit misplaced, particularly now where you see the parent actually taking positive steps, and very positive steps, with significant financial consequences, to get money into the company and to deal with at least one of the lien -- the most significant lien claimant -- already. And to say there was coyness or some sort of behaviour that should be somehow criticized, I don't think that can be said any more. Yes, they've gone through a process to test the waters, as it were. They're still interested in that. But they have started 63 Submissions by Mr. Jackson (reply) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 to show that they are engaged -- financially engaged and have taken steps to do that already. So I think that may be a comment that maybe a month ago might not have been misplaced. I think it's a little unfair at this point, My Lady. The company is advancing its restructuring with the support, financial support, of its parent. That's all I can do, My Lady. THE COURT: Thank you. (REASONS FOR JUDGMENT - PREVIOUSLY TRANSCRIBED) MR. JACKSON: Thank you, My Lady. What I was proposing to do here was to have Ms. Toigo take you through the order. It really is hers in terms of having pen on it, and she will be much closer to it. I can tell you just by way of developments over the break is that I don't think you're going to hear any real opposition [indiscernible] but I think my friends Mr. Boucher and Louman-Gardiner for their clients, the lien claimants, would like to have clear on the record a few things in terms of what they are entitled to do and how this order is supposed to work. And I can maybe just flag that for you as two issues, and one is, in the ordinary claims process, as Your Ladyship will well know, if after submissions of claims, disallowances, the dispute of the disallowance the parties can't seem to resolve it, then there is an application to the court. And it says in one of the paragraphs here that Ms. Toigo can direct you to, that the claim will be determined by the court. There is a concern that that was a -- would be relied upon as res judicata to say that this court had absolute jurisdiction over that determination. And that that was certainly not the intention in drafting. I don't think Your Ladyship -THE COURT: You mean versus the Yukon court and a lien. Is that what you mean? MR. JACKSON: Exactly. And my point, and I put this on the record -- and I don't see how we could say otherwise -- is that on that application it would be open to the lien claimant, or anyone, I suppose, to argue that the correct jurisdiction for the determination of the claim is the Yukon 64 Submissions by Mr. Jackson (reply) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE court. Your Ladyship can make that decision based on the court proceedings, and we'll -COURT: Well, I mentioned that in my Transamine decision, that it remains -- you know, there would have to be an application to lift the stay with some justification as to why the other forum is the more appropriate one. JACKSON: Right. COURT: The central control remains in this court. JACKSON: So that was our view of the world, too, is that when this comes on, if it comes on, for determination by this court, this court could decline jurisdiction and it could end up in the Yukon court, subject to the stay on enforcement, just for the purpose of determining the claim. And we don't have any issue with that, and I think that would satisfy one of my friend's concerns about it won't later say, too late, this court is the only court to decide that. They are not going to do that. The second point, I think, was that -- I am not sure about Mr. Louman-Gardiner's client, but Mr. Boucher's client has an application that was served today to lift the stay and have them bring their claim in the proceeding in the Yukon court. I don't think they intend to do that today. I'm certain of that. I think the return date is the 3rd of July. But I think their point is this is an outstanding application which may be brought on at any time; 10 days, 20 days, 45 days. I don't dispute anybody has a right to bring such an application at any point during a proceeding. We would say that maybe it is premature because there's a claims process. They can explain why they think that's not correct. And we had a dispute about whether or not this order would be without prejudice to this application. I think it is actually because if we have a claims process we're going to flag that as being a reason to deny the application perhaps. But I don't think they're going to contest that at this point, this order. And if that application comes on, we can point to the consistent ^ of the claims process as one -COURT: So you are going to take the position that the claims process was res judicata in terms of determining that? 65 Submissions by Mr. Jackson (reply) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MR. JACKSON: No, what I say is if they bring an application in 15 days, say, for an order to lift the stay and proceed with their claim, I would say, wait a second, we're in the middle of a claims process here, let's let that run its course to the point to find out if we have a dispute and what that dispute is about. THE COURT: Oh, I see. MR. JACKSON: And I would raise the claims process as a response as one of the reasons to deny that application. THE COURT: But by way of timing, you mean. MR. JACKSON: Mainly timing. It has to be -- I think that's right. I wouldn't say it has to be the claims process. I would say, wait until the end of the claims process, or at least a point when it makes sense to then bring the application on in Yukon if that's what you want to do. But I think, you know, this is a bit of bluster in some sense on both sides, because hopefully, you know, practicality dictates you run through the claims process, find out what the dispute is about really, and then find the best way to have that determined. And the fight may be over jurisdiction, but I don't even know about that, My Lady. So that's the two issues. I've done more than I expected in terms of just flagging them. I've argued them. But my friends can maybe tell you whether I fairly put it, if I ^ they have anything to add to it, and then Ms. Toigo can return to the order,^ cor? and if I may, with your permission, take my leave at that point. THE COURT: And my other little bugaboo on these claims process orders -- I hope you've addressed it -- there's a claim to the court,^ -- have you addressed whether it's de novo or a true appeal? MR. JACKSON: No, we did not, My Lady. THE COURT: You have got to do that. MR. JACKSON: Okay. That may be for a discussion at the break. We can talk with the monitor about what they think the appropriate thing to do is. THE COURT: Well, the reason I say that to everyone, frankly, is that, you know, it just invites another argument. Which is it? And then you have got to decide that. So it just makes sense to address it at the outset so you don't have 66 Submissions by Mr. Boucher 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE that extra argument. Everybody knows what the process is going in. JACKSON: Right. COURT: Because if it's a record kind of an issue, then that dictates how people submit their claims and how the monitor is going to address it too. JACKSON: Right. I know which way I'm leaning, but I don't want to do that without discussing with my friend, with the monitor, because, of course, they are going to be helping wade through the stacks and reams of paper. And if it's by way of appeal, I suspect that's going to increase the stacks and reams. But that's my leaning. I'll have to talk to the -COURT: Well, a true appeal is subject to fresh evidence too, but then you have got a test to satisfy in terms of whether you get it in. JACKSON: I am a fan of de novo, but I'll just put that out there until I've talked to my friend Mr. Williams about that. COURT: Well, you get the whole Galaxy ^ line of cases which everybody tends to ignore, frankly. JACKSON: Exactly. It's not as if the court's going to ignore -COURT: I have a more difficult time ignoring it where I am. So ... JACKSON: That seems fair. COURT: Yes. JACKSON: But My Lady, I take your point and that may require something to say in the appeal or in the application, the court has to be able to specify by way of true appeal or order de novo. But I maybe at the break -COURT: We can have a short break, and we can just write it in. I don't want to ... JACKSON: Certainly, My Lady. Do you want to hear from Mr. Louman-Gardiner or Boucher before we do that? COURT: Yes, why don't we hear -- I don't know who wants to go. Mr. Boucher? Why don't you speak first? Now, you filed an application, Mr. Boucher? BOUCHER: Yes, we did, My Lady. COURT: I don't have that as yet. BOUCHER: No, we just filed it this morning, actually. COURT: Oh, I see. Okay. 67 Submissions by Mr. Boucher 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MR. BOUCHER: I have an application response to today's application I'm going to pass up. THE COURT: Yes, I did see that. I saw the tab at least. Thank you. MR. BOUCHER: Just for the record, it's Boucher, B-o-u-c-h-e-r k ^ first initial S. I missed the roll call, My Lady, this morning. THE COURT: Yes. MR. BOUCHER: For the record. Mr. Siddall apologizes, he had to excuse himself. He had a flight to catch. THE COURT: That's fine. MR. BOUCHER: So I was going to take Your Ladyship through the application response very briefly. My friend has done a good job of saying what the issue is. It's a very small procedural issue, but we just want it on the record so the context is set for the application that we intend to bring. So just on page 2 of the application response. We say that the petitioner is indebted to our clients PS Sidhu Trucking Ltd. for just -just over $815,000 [phonetic] ** ^ , with respect to supply of labour, equipment, supervision and the management of mineral concentrate haulage from the mine in the Yukon -THE COURT: Yes, I already know about your client from the Transamine issue. This name is familiar. MR. BOUCHER: Yes, I was expecting that. I read your reasons on that, so I won't take you to the Miners Lien Act in great detail. Suffice it to say that on March 10th of this year Sidhu Trucking filed a claim of lien, filed a petition to enforce it under the initial order authority on May 5th. And then on June 14th counsel for the petitioner advised by email that they would intend to file an application in this proceeding seeking discharge of the claim of lien on the basis that the nature of the services, being trucking services, is outside the scope of the MLA. And that the claim's not need ^ within the time period. So that's kind of sparked our application with the stay and have this determined in Yukon courts based on whether or not haulage or trucking is included or excluded from the scope of the Miners Lien Act in that 68 Submissions by Mr. Boucher 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE jurisdiction. And so today our initial relief sought would have been to adjourn the claims process order relief and then have had heard together with our application to have our validity of the claim -not the quantum or anything else, just the validity of it, excluded and heard in the Yukon. Or have the claims process order specify that and have our claim -- and I believe my friend for Hy's North Transportation has the same similar position, have his claim as well excluded from this process and heard up there. After talking more with my friends, we have an agreement that we don't have to go through that. We are not going to seek that right now as long as it's on the record that when we file an application -- and I hope to set a date for July 3rd. I haven't canvassed dates with my friends on this -- but you are sitting that [indiscernible], but I'm not sure of everyone's availability -- but when we have that application there's no arguments that say that the claims process order has been made now so that's -- you can't hear this argument. You know, the argument having been made that that's the more appropriate course, but not that -- like my friend said, a quasi res judicata argument -- that the issue's going to be determined and so the application must fail on that ground. So we just want to preserve that right today. Aside from that, I believe that's all we wanted to do today, so we'll have that fight hopefully soon -- sooner than later. I'm not sure if Your Ladyship is available on July 3rd, or my friends. COURT: I am pretty sure I am not. I am -- no. BOUCHER: My friend advises that you are possibly not available for us in July. COURT: Yes, I think Mr. Jackson's recollection is correct. I am sitting the week of the 27th and it seems to be shaping up as CCAA week. So Wednesday and Thursday are kind of -- the 29th and 30th might be days you want to slot in there. BOUCHER: Okay. COURT: And I will leave that to you to coordinate with who is going to be on the other side of the application and speak to scheduling, of course. 69 Submissions by Mr Louman-Gardiner 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MR. BOUCHER: Thank you, My Lady. THE COURT: I think even Monday the 27th. I have got [indiscernible] on the 27th, and one you will know is not ready, and a TLC on the 28th. Is that right, Ms. Buttery? MS. BUTTERY: Yes. THE COURT: Is that a one-day matter? MS. BUTTERY: At this juncture it is, yes. THE COURT: And then I have got the numbered company 0899 -- I'm not sure who's on that, on the Friday. So I think Monday, Wednesday, Thursday of this week, because I suppose if it's contested, you are going to need a half day I think; is that right? MR. BOUCHER: I think so. It's a very -- not too much evidence to go into it, I don't think. It's more of a jurisdictional, legal argument. THE COURT: It's under the Act, isn't it? [Inaudible]. MR. BOUCHER: Yes, it follows your reasons pretty closely in the previous decision. THE COURT: Yes. Okay. And of course, Mr. Louman-Gardiner will I am sure have something to say about the timing of that. MR. BOUCHER: Yes. THE COURT: That's probably the best chance of getting things organized before me at least. MR. BOUCHER: Thank you very much, My Lady. THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. Boucher. MR. LOUMAN-GARDINER: Thank you, My Lady. My submissions may be a tiny bit -- I don't know if substantive is the word. To cut to the chase, I think we're all clear that, you know, this is -- that any claims process order that goes has to be without prejudice to sort of the outcome of this application. There's a little bit -- the outcome, sorry -- of where are ^ miners lien claim wants to be heard. I think there is an agreement on that. There is a bit of disagreement in my view as to what without prejudice actually means. My friend Mr. Jackson wants to reserve the right to stand up and say, no, so when we come before you on July 20th or whenever that is, he wants to reserve the right -- as I understand it, correct me if I am wrong -- to be able to say, no, there 70 Submissions by Mr Louman-Gardiner 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 is a claims process, let that run its course first and then we'll go from there. I have two issues with that: The first is one of law which I don't particularly think we can decide today. But the Miners Lien Act specifically vests in the Yukon Supreme Court the ability to resolve these claims. And in my view I don't see a basis to strip it of that jurisdiction. And if that is the interpretation of the claims process order today, then it shouldn't go. But my second issue is a practical one which is this: The validity of the liens governed by Yukon law -- I think my friend Ms. Buttery's office has some Yukon lawyers, but in any event, they still need to get opinions on law, and any appeal to this court would have to involve foreign law, which is an unnecessarily long and duplicative process. So the more efficient way to resolve this dispute is, in my submission, going straight up to the Yukon. So I have a legal issue in terms of who has the jurisdiction to do it, and a practical issue. Now, this is all resolved if we can all agree straight up that without prejudice to our position means that -- if the claims process order goes, that is completely and entirely without prejudice to our ability to say that the monitor ought not be the one who decides this claim, and we ought to say at the hearing to extend the stay, if necessary. So that's the only area of controversy, such as it is, but I think it is still a live issue between myself and Mr. Jackson. So those are my issues with the claims process order going today, based on what Mr. Jackson has just said. THE COURT: Mr. Jackson. MR. JACKSON: The monitor doesn't decide the claims, My Lady. The company decides whether it will disallow or allow a claim or revise it, and they can dispute it. And that's -- we can't -- we have no adjudicative authority. Alternately, the court does. So the process is a way of fleshing out what claims are out there and hopefully resolving it. If that fails, then the parties come to court. And the court at that time, as I believe is totally correct, is without prejudice 71 Submissions by Mr Louman-Gardiner 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. on all bases as to whether or not this should be done in this court or some other court. But the claims process itself isn't technically adjudicative in the sense that somebody has the authority to bound ^ bind someone's claim, unless they meet a deadline. Even then it's for -COURT: I think what I take from that is you agree with Mr. Louman-Gardiner's submissions in terms of the without prejudice effect of the claims process order grant going. JACKSON: [Inaudible]. The only thing I'm saying is if an application comes on, you know, on the 15th of July -- I know it's not going to happen -- but in the middle of the claims process one of the things I would say on that application is you should not grant this application at this time because the claims process is ongoing, and that may resolve this claim. COURT: I suppose it flows from the provision in the order, which I haven't seen yet or looked at yet, it says if there is a dispute about the claim, then it is an appeal to this court. And I think that's Mr. Louman-Gardiner is saying with respect to that provision it will not affect his ability to say as a matter of law or just practicality, that it should go to the Yukon. JACKSON: In that I completely agree. COURT: Mr. Louman-Gardiner, does that fairly summarize your concerns and the position you're taking? LOUMAN-GARDINER: The issue is this: They've already taken the position that our lien is invalid. So -- and that's in the affidavit that my friend has filed. The company has already taken the position that the lien's invalid. So we would be essentially waiting another month -we know -- what I'm saying is we know the result of the claims process anyways. So to sit and wait for it is not a salutary objective in any way, shape or form. The far better course of action is to get on with it. We know that there is going to be a fight about the validity of the lien. They've already said it's invalid. We say its valid. We know that fight is going to happen. To stand up to say, well, let's ^ smh until the end of the claims process is rather senseless because -- 72 Submissions by Mr Louman-Gardiner 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE COURT: Well, I mean we're getting a little ahead of ourselves because these are the arguments -MR. LOUMAN-GARDINER: I'm sorry. THE COURT: -- that would be on your application to lift the stay to allow it to proceed. MR. LOUMAN-GARDINER: Yes. THE COURT: So I just want to make sure we're all aware what the ground rules are in terms of -MR. LOUMAN-GARDINER: Which is why I am standing up. THE COURT: So my question again to you is, do you agree with my summary of the issues and Mr. Jackson's acknowledgment of the without prejudice nature of the claims process order in terms of your ability to make the arguments that you intend to make? MR. LOUMAN-GARDINER: As long as it's crystal clear that nothing in this claims process order is without prejudice to it, then we're fine with that. THE COURT: Yes, I think we're all on the same page now, are we? Yes. Good. MR. JACKSON: I think, My Lady, now might be a good time to discuss with the monitor about how the appeal, if any appeal or application to this court, or an appeal from the disallowance would proceed. THE COURT: Yes. And you wanted to leave, I think -MR. JACKSON: I do, My Lady. THE COURT: -- do you not? Just before you leave, that week that you were mentioning is in fact -I am in Dawson Creek. As matters now stand, I think those are fairly firm dates. Otherwise I was set to be in Vancouver. So that's unfortunate but there is nothing I can do about that. And then the week following I'm not available. I am actually on a five-week stretch where I am not available starting on the 17th of August. MR. JACKSON: Maybe we can just go to September. THE COURT: Well, the option is the week of the 10th to the 14th, but I can do it by phone if it's not contested. MR. JACKSON: That was our thinking, My Lady. When we discussed that I think we knew that there was a chance that you wouldn't be -- I think actually Ms. [Indiscernible] has done a very good job of keeping track of your schedule. 73 Submissions by Mr Louman-Gardiner 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE COURT: Okay. Good. MR. JACKSON: We recognize that if we are coming back on the 14th, the application would be for a meeting order, and the anticipation is that a meeting order is one of those ones that, you know, frankly there may be -- some language here or there isn't going to be substantively controversial. THE COURT: Well, unless someone thinks that things should move in a different -- a different direction. MR. JACKSON: Well, it's a possibility I don't want to -- I don't want to anticipate now. THE COURT: There is still a bit of opposition as I sense it, Mr. Jackson. Tell you what, why don't you speak to scheduling about getting a 9:00 o'clock on the 14th. I'll do it by phone. It will be on the usual understanding that if it turns into a contested hearing you'll have to find someone else to address it. MR. JACKSON: Very well. Thank you, My Lady. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: My Lady, if I may, I thought we would be done in the afternoon. THE COURT: You want to get started on the long weekend. Anybody that wants to leave at this point is welcome to leave. And why don't we take -- we'll stand down for a short period of time and then you can sort out that appeal issue. Ms. Buttery, sorry. On the sealing issue, we haven't addressed that. Is anybody opposing that? If anybody wants to oppose that, they should come back. And do you have a form of order? MS. BUTTERY: Yes. Mr. Williams has it, and he has had it vetted. THE COURT: If you could hand that -- I will hear your submissions on that, on the Sierra test. MS. BUTTERY: Yes, Mr. Williams will be speaking to that. THE COURT: All right. Thank you. We'll take a short adjournment, then. THE CLERK: Order in chambers. Chambers is adjourned briefly. 74 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 (PROCEEDINGS RECESSED AT 2:28 P.M.) (PROCEEDINGS RECONVENED AT 2:47 P.M.) THE COURT: Ms. Toigo. MS. TOIGO: Thank you, My Lady. I will take you specifically to the paragraph in the order when we get there, but I did have an opportunity at the break to speak to the monitor and if Your Ladyship is so minded, we would like the claims process, if it comes back to the court, any determination would be by a de novo hearing. My plan at this point, unless you have any specific questions was just really to do a page flip. I appreciate this is not a first claims process order you have seen, so if I am going too slow, just let me know. THE COURT: All right. MS. TOIGO: And the order was handed up to you, I believe. It's the one with the claw clip on it. THE COURT: Is it the one with all the tabs? MS. TOIGO: Yes. THE COURT: Okay. This is just the one without tabs. MS. TOIGO: And that is the vetted order as well. THE COURT: This is the one without tabs. This is the one here. MS. TOIGO: That is the vetted order as well. I do have a redline if that's helpful, or a draft. THE COURT: Yes, that would be good. MS. TOIGO: This is a redline from the order that was circulated, the last version you would have seen last night. THE COURT: Is this the same one? This is the same one. MS. TOIGO: Did Mr. Jackson hand it up as well? THE COURT: Yes. All right. Well, I'll give Madam Clerk one of them. MS. TOIGO: There was a lot of paper flying around this morning. So starting on page 2, paragraph 4, it's the extension of the stay which we've already dealt with, to the 14th. Paragraph 5, this isn't so much the claims process itself, but just by way of overview. Paragraph 5 grants the employee charge. Again, Mr. Jackson took you through that. The restructuring timelines that we have 75 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 spoken about are at paragraphs 6 and 7. Those are really -- again, Mr. Jackson went through this -- but by the end of the month how -- a proposed plan with the monitor, and by the 14th bring an application to the court. The monitor's expanded authority is 8 through 10. The general provisions of the claims process and the -- what we're calling the "executory contract identification process" starts at paragraph 11 approving the process. And the claims bar date restructuring, the claims bar date, and the executory contract bar date. The claims bar date and the executory contract bar date are both July 28th. The restructuring claims bar date is the later of either that date or ten days after the notice of disallowance, subject to the monitor and the petitioner agreeing to extend those dates, if they feel it is appropriate to do so. Turning over the page, sort of general provisions, down to paragraph 16 which talks about the monitor's role in the process. It [indiscernible] the petitioner in administering the claims process and the executory contract identification process, including the determination of the claims and the contracts. Turning over the page, paragraph 17, notice of claims. The claims process order anticipates sending out a claim amount notice which -- not in every circumstance, but in many circumstances, particularly with respect to the employees where we know what is owed to them, we have had fairly lengthy discussions about the ESO or what the ESO believes is owed to them. In those circumstances where the petitioner, you know, has a very good idea, or is quite certain about what is owed, they would get a claim amount notice. If they don't dispute that, then that will be determined to be their claim. If they do dispute that, then they have to file a proof of claim by the claims order date. Moving on, there's procedural things in terms of giving notice. This will include posting -- or putting a newspaper ad, pardon me, in The Vancouver Sun and the Yukon News. The Yukon News being the same newspaper in which the 76 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MS. THE MS. notice is given of the initial order. Posting on the monitor's website, providing the packages to the creditors. Paragraph 20. The executory contract process in terms of notice starts at paragraph 22. It follows the same timeline and the same package -- well, not the same package, but the same idea that a package will be sent out. Included in that will be the executory contract list which Mr. Jackson mentioned earlier. It would be a list of all the executory contracts which the petitioner believed were in place at the filing date. It's in the process of developing that list with the monitor and that will go out. Very similar to the claim notice amount in the sense if a contract party gets that list and doesn't dispute the information therein, no further steps are taken. If they do dispute that information or if they get that and believe that their contract should be listed in there and it is not, then they have to provide proof of that executory contract by the executory contract bar date. COURT: When you say "the information," is it just going to say, contract between Yukon Zinc and X, Y, Z, dated such and such? TOIGO: The schedule is still being developed, but I think that is the idea. It was a contract with party X, dated this. If it's a very specific agreement like a lease or a property, you know, I think a short description would be there. Certainly enough that the contract would be identifiable. That is the thought at this point. That schedule is still being developed, though. COURT: So the person looks at this list and goes, yeah, that's right, I have a contract, or no, that contract's gone, or there is another contract. Something like that? TOIGO: Yes. I mean it would be -- it will have enough details so they can identify whether their specific contract is listed therein. And we probably will include a caveat in there. And there is an instruction letter also going out which would provide, you know, contact details or anything else. If there was any question on their part, whether their contract is included, 77 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. they can easily call the monitor and confirm that. COURT: Is there any possibility of any contracts with overseas parties? TOIGO: Yes, there would be. I mean in terms of supply contracts and things like that. Yes, that would be fair. COURT: So how do those people get notice? TOIGO: They will get notice in the same way. It would purge them. There are provisions in the order that provide how notice can be given sent by prepaid mail, or courier, at the last known address as determined by the petitioner's books and records. It would be in the same process. In those circumstances you know, the petitioner, the monitor, may exercise some discretion in terms of deadlines, but in terms of when they have to get their notice of the files and anything -- or pardon me; their contract in, if there was any prejudice there, I think that would be decided on a one-off basis. COURT: Does this allow that the monitor do that? TOIGO: In terms of the deadlines? COURT: In terms of discretion. TOIGO: I believe it does. COURT: 28, I think. TOIGO: Paragraph 28 I think is with respect to claims. But 34 would be the paragraph I think -- it is similar language, but with respect to the executory contracts: ... received by the Monitor on or before the Executory Contract Bar Date, or such later date as the Monitor and the Petitioner may agree in writing or the Court may otherwise direct. THE COURT: Yes. MS. TOIGO: I think Mr. Jackson alluded to this. The purpose of this process is really just to flesh out what contracts might be out there and determine how to deal with them appropriately in the restructuring. So I -- I mean it would be on a one-off basis, but I think that discretion is built in partially to address any prejudice that might arise. And they would always, of course, 78 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MS. THE MS. have recourse to the court if they disagreed with the decision that was made. COURT: Yes. TOIGO: So turning back to -- I believe I was at paragraph 25. This is with respect to a notice just approving that the notice given by way of the schedules that are attached to the order -and I am happy to go through the schedules. They are -- I think other than proof of executory contract, I don't think there will be anything that you haven't seen before. COURT: Yes. TOIGO: Paragraph 26 talks about publication of newspaper notice and the provision of the claims package and executory contract package will constitute good and sufficient service and delivery of notice of this order as well as the process set forth herein. Starting at paragraph 27, fairly standard language in terms of the claims process. They have to file -- anyone wishing to assert a claim other than a claim amount notice, a person who doesn't dispute that has to do so by the claims bar date. If they don't they are barred from later asserting that claim, and that is also with respect to directors' and officers' claims. Paragraph 29 just talks about the claim notice amount. Paragraph 30 just clarifies that this doesn't affect unaffected claims, which is post-filing suppliers, CCAA charges, those types of claims. 31 is with respect to filing of restructuring claims. A similar process just to the later prior date, with the restructuring claims prior date. Again, the monitor and petitioner have the discretion to extend that date if it's appropriate to do so. 33 -- starting at paragraph 33, pardon me, is an executory contract identification process. It runs very similar to the claims process. If you get the contract list, as I said, and you don't dispute it, no further steps are needed. If you do dispute it or you want to file the contract, you provide proof of that by the bar date. Those that don't provide proof by the bar date are then further barred from later asserting 79 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 that contract. Or also from subsequently asserting a claim against the petitioner with respect to that contract. 36 and 37 I really just speak to -- because it will be the monitors, the party who is administrating this process. But all the materials that they receive they would provide to the petitioner and petitioner's counsel with copies and access to those materials. 38 deals with how things are going to be determined: The Petitioner, in consultation with the Monitor, shall review all Proofs of Claim received on or before the Claims Bar Date or the Restructuring Claim Bar Date, as applicable, and shall accept, revise or disallow each Claim set out therein. It goes through the process. If there is a dispute, within 21 days the monitor shall send out notice of revision or disallowance advising the creditor of the issue with their claim. Also, they then have ten days to file a notice of dispute in response to that notice of disallowance. The one caveat to this is in paragraph 39. It's the petitioner in consultation with the monitor reviewing the claims and making the initial determination, both -- with claims that are filed by related parties, and "related parties" in the order is defined to be the definition of section 4 in the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act. Those claims will be determined by the monitor in the first instance. Paragraph 40. Again, I have already sort of gone over this. Any creditor who is sent a notice of revision or disallowance has 10 days to file the notice of dispute. Paragraph 41. This sort of goes to what was being discussed before the break with Mr. Boucher and Mr. Louman-Gardiner. Upon receipt of a Notice of Dispute, the Petitioner, in consultation with the Monitor, may: (i) attempt to consensually resolve the disputed Claim with the 80 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 Creditor ... Which obviously in most cases we hope could be done. Or: (ii) bring a motion before the Court in these proceedings to determine the disputed Claim. THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE And then you'll see we've just written in "that shall be determined de novo." COURT: Is there anything -- just to back up to page 10 again, Ms. Toigo, is there anything in here that allows another creditor to contest acceptance of a claim? I'm just thinking, like -- I see that often in a claims process where someone accepts -- I'll use what is a sort of a prime example in this case where the parent company had a secured claim that was registered on the eve of the filing. TOIGO: Yes. COURT: I don't know whether anything flows from that, but let's just assume there might be some issue there. TOIGO: Yes. COURT: If the monitor says, well, we think it's okay, but somebody who has a significant interest and whether that's accepted or not and says, well, no, I don't think it is and I want it challenged, is there something in this process that would allow that? TOIGO: There is not, My Lady. There is nothing specifically in the order that would speak to that, but I would think that generally -- I mean that application could be brought. COURT: Well, how could it? Because if the monitor accepts it, then it's deemed to be a valid claim, isn't it? TOIGO: Deemed to be a valid claim in terms of quantum, but I still think they could probably challenge the -- I mean specifically speaking to your issue, which I think is probably the most live issue in these proceedings, although that may have changed given that JDC Canada has now taken an assignment of [indiscernible] instead -COURT: Well, but I mean you still have 81 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 $670 million secured debt. MS. TOIGO: There is. There is. Yes, that's correct. MR. COLLINS: It's Mr. Collins here. I am wondering if I may. THE COURT: Yes. MR. COLLINS: And thank you for raising it, because the exact same thing occurred to me. There's obviously an issue surrounding the grant of security to the parent two weeks before the filing. What we don't want to have is a circumstance where the monitor allows the claim as a secured claim without parties being entitled. THE COURT: That's what I am getting at, but that's just one example that I'm aware of. There might be others that are equally contentious. MR. COLLINS: Yes. THE COURT: Because as you point out, Ms. Toigo, we are dealing with some related team, and the Shaanxi Zinc is another prime example of the relationship between various participants in the business. MS. TOIGO: No, and I think it's a fair point to raise. I think that the monitor will report on the claims process. Any related claims will be determined by the monitor. THE COURT: Yes, I know they will, but I'm just saying someone may form a different view of the validity, or even the amount of that claim, contrary to the conclusion of the monitor. And just on the face of it, and Mr. Collins seems to be thinking along the same lines, it seems to me that there is no reason why that party should be stuck with the decision, so to speak, if they wish to take a run at it themselves. MR. COLLINS: And I think it should be manifest in the order, My Lady, so there is no confusion down the road as to what the parties' rights are intersay [phonetic]. We've obviously been -- you know, going on the run here with respect to the application. And it wasn't an issue that I had identified. MS. TOIGO: I think our position -- pardon me, Mr. Collins. I'm sorry. MR. COLLINS: I just figure it has to be -- you know, it needs to be manifest in the order in some fashion and we can, I would expect, easily deal 82 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 with some bases upon which other creditors and claimants in the proceeding have the bases to not be bound by a monitor's determination with respect to whether the claim is secured or not. And really to name it, I think someone might conclude that the grant of security to the parent is not a preference because it occurred -because it's in further answer of a covenant to have granted security that occurred outside the preference period. I just think that Royal Gold should be able to join issue with that determination, and nothing in this order should prevent -- nothing in the monitor's determination should prevent Royal Gold from asserting that the grant of security was a fraudulent preference transaction under value or under reviewable transaction. THE COURT: Ms. Toigo. MS. TOIGO: I was just speaking to my friend Ms. Buttery. A possible solution to this might be that -- and I will massage the language as it goes into the order. I mean I take the point if that sort of protection needs to be built into the order, I don't think that we are opposed to that. In terms of practically how it would work, what has been suggested to me by the monitor's counsel is that at the end of the claims process a report could be put forward by the monitor, filed with the court, circulated to the creditors, with the conclusions of that -- the monitor's conclusions on the various claims. And maybe it would only be limited to -- actually, I was going to say only limited to the weight of party claims, but I don't think that's appropriate. I think it should be all claims. And then within ten days it would be open to any aggrieved party who took issue with those conclusions to bring application as it saw fit. That would probably balance the prejudice that Mr. Collins is speaking of, and that you have also raised. But also keeping in mind that -- I don't think it should be any longer than ten days because we do need some finality here, and particularly [indiscernible] for this to be done, this is an important part of it so that I can balance the parties' -- those competing interests. 83 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE COURT: All right. Well, I'll hear from Ms. Buttery on that point too, but I think we're going to have to flesh out that process a little in the sense of how the notice is given, whether -- well, the service list, or posted to the website, or both, or what that looks like. And then -MS. TOIGO: In terms of the report are you -THE COURT: Yes, the report. And then how much notice. I agree that a reasonable period of time, but on a short time is probably appropriate. But I think on the back end too, the issue's going to be, well, what if that person wants to object to that? I don't know that necessarily requiring them to file an application is something that you don't want to require immediately because it may be that they simply need more information, in which case you don't want to put them to the task and expense of actually filing a court application. It may be just registering an objection with the monitor, for example, that gives them -- you know, they've done whatever they need to do to put the process in motion, and then it sort of flows from that. MS. TOIGO: Yes, I think those are all fair points. I'll let Ms. Buttery speak to this as well, but I think you're totally right in the sense that maybe a staged sort of objection process is by far the most appropriate if it can be dealt with by just a simple discussion or additional -[inaudible], that's far more preferable than bringing into court. THE COURT: Okay. MS. TOIGO: I believe we left off at paragraph 42. Paragraph 42 deals with transfers and assignments of claims. Essentially this is a bit of a notice issue as well. If it's a claim which has been assigned which the monitor and the petitioner have not been advised of the claim -- the assignment -- pardon me; they are not under any obligation -- pardon me; shall be obligated to give notice or otherwise deal with transfer assignee until they are provided with written notice of the assignment and the assignee takes the claim, subject to any rights which the petitioner may have thereunder including rights of set-off. I think it's fairly standard. 84 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 Service and notices, paragraph 43. This goes back sort of I guess to your earlier question about overseas potential claimants or contract parties. It says that: The Petitioner and the Monitor may, unless otherwise specified by the CCPO, serve and deliver the Claims Package and the Executory Contract Package ... And any materials related thereto. ... by prepaid ordinary mail, courier, personal delivery or electronic transmission to such Persons at their respective addresses or contact information, as last shown on [the Petitioner's records] ... As we noted earlier, it will also be posted on the monitor's website, and it will be published in The Vancouver Sun and the Yukon News. 44 sets out the address information which any materials be delivered to the monitor need to be sent to. 45 is in the event of a postal strike, how that will be dealt with. 46 is if there is any further amendments of this order: ... the Petitioner or the Monitor may post such further Order on the Monitor's Website and serve [the] order on the Service List and such posting and service shall constitute adequate notice to Creditors and Contract Parties of the amendments made. Paragraph 47: The Claims Bar Date and Restructuring Claims Bar Date and the amount and status of every Allowed Claim as determined under the Claims Process, including any determination as to the nature, amount, value, priority or validity of any Claim, including any secure claim, shall be final for all purposes including in respect of any Plan and voting thereon ( unless provided for otherwise in 85 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 any Subsequent Order of the Court), and including any distributions ... Under any plan. 48: The Executory Contract Bar Date shall be final for all purposes whether in these CCAA Proceedings or in any of the proceedings authorized by this Court or permitted by statute, including a receivership proceeding or bankruptcy affecting the Petitioner. 49 is standard language in terms of the aid -- the court requesting the aid and recognition of foreign jurisdictions of this order. Paragraph 50, this is specifically with respect to: The Monitor, (i) in carrying out the terms of the CCPO, shall have all of the protections given to it by the CCAA and the ARIO or as an officer of this Court, including the stay of proceedings in its favour, (ii) shall incur no liability or obligation ... (iii) shall be entitled to rely on the books and records and information provided by the Petitioner, all without independent investigations, and (iv) shall not be liable for any claims or damages resulting from any errors or omissions ... 51, we may come back for directions if necessary. The petitioner or monitor. And 52 just speaks that notwithstanding anything in this order the petitioner may refer a claim for resolution to the court. And pardon me; all of this is with consent of the monitor may in writing at any time accept the amount of the claim for voting purposes without the prejudice to the right of the petitioner to contest liability and may also resolve any dispute claims. Subject to any questions you may have, that 86 Submissions by Ms. Buttery re order 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. is the terms of the order. Like I said, I can speak to the schedules. I don't know if it's necessary. I am in your hands on that point. The schedules to the order. COURT: Oh, no, I don't think I need you to do that, Ms. Toigo. Thank you. Ms. Buttery, I've only heard from you on the one issue, and I think you had other things to talk about. BUTTERY: My Lady, having regard to the length of the proceedings today and the number of matters addressed by Mr. Jackson, it isn't my intention to go through the report unless Your Ladyship thinks it's necessary. The pivotal points obviously were the excess funds, the increased role of the monitor. And most importantly obviously for your purposes, for the extension, the cash flow statement, which Mr. Jackson took you to. And all of the circumstances exist that support the monitor's support of all of the relief that's being sought. So I think it's probably old news for me to go through the report at this juncture unless you would like me to. COURT: No, I think that's fine. Just before I lose track of it, though, Mr. Jackson was referring to the deadline, the July 31st deadline for the restructuring notice. BUTTERY: Yes. COURT: I do agree that that's appropriate that the monitor report on that and post it on the website so that the stakeholders are aware as to whether that has happened or not. BUTTERY: Yes. COURT: And what it looks like if it's going to happen, so they are current on that and can react in any way they see fit. BUTTERY: Yes. And the monitor's in agreement. The only concern is that the report may be actually very short. It may simply say they are not proceeding or they are proceeding, and now we understand they are drafting a plan. So as long as parties understand that the actual report may simply be one or two sentences, because that's all the information the monitor really has. COURT: Yes. No, I think that's fine. BUTTERY: Fine. Thank you. And we will bring that report obviously to the attention of the 87 Submissions by Ms. Buttery re order 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 court so Your Ladyship is aware prior to the 14th of what is -- what is happening. THE COURT: Yes. MS. BUTTERY: With respect to Ms. Toigo's comments and your questions regarding the right of a creditor, as you know, it is quite -- it happens more often than not that another creditor has an issue with a creditor's claim. And so it is our -- and I haven't spoken to my client about this, but I think it's appropriate that at the close of the claims bar date that the monitor prepares a report. It may be, and it often is, that a few of the bigger issues have been deferred. It may still be subject to negotiation because as you heard from Ms. Toigo, the order does take in the discretion of the company and the monitor to extend those timelines. But notwithstanding that, I think -- I don't know how many days -maybe I can talk to my client. Maybe five days after the close of the claims bar dates? Yes, I'm told that's fine. That the monitor will prepare and deliver a report, in essence a claims register, I think, is what we could call it. And I would suggest -- someone's going to know pretty quickly if they have an issue with it. And because it will really result in -- your suggestion I think is appropriate, really more of a consult with the monitor as to why they came to that conclusion. Essentially that someone could issue a request for information as a first step to the monitor and the monitor shall co-operate with that person. And to the extent that it can't be resolved, it probably behooves the monitor to bring an application to court and to have that issue determined, and what -- the advantage to that, instead of the creditor, is that it will keep the process on track and the monitor could have a number of those issues come before the court at one time. I could foresee that if it was the creditor who had to bring that application, it might become a bit unwieldy very quickly. So to the extent that the monitor's unable -- the monitor shall in its discretion bring the matter before the court for consideration. THE COURT: Right. So a request for information and then the next step is, I don't agree, so it's -- 88 Submissions by Ms. Buttery re order 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MS. BUTTERY: If the creditor doesn't agree the monitor would bring it before the court. THE COURT: All right. MS. BUTTERY: Yes. THE COURT: I think that's appropriate. This is one of those cases where I think that's clearly something that may -MS. BUTTERY: May very well happen. THE COURT: May come up. Not clearly will come up, but may come up. MS. BUTTERY: Yes. And then at least the monitor can manage the timing and hopefully keep it to a strict -- a strict deadline. As I said, having regard to judicial resources, not have six over the course of 14 days or something, but actually try to get them resolved in a short period of time. THE COURT: And so your report would be to the service list because the squeaky wheels have already done that, of course. MS. BUTTERY: Yes. THE COURT: So they're going to be very much attuned to that issue. MS. BUTTERY: But I think it's appropriate that it would be all of the service list. And service list, and, of course, if anyone else were to give the monitor notice that they have an interest in the claims. THE COURT: And posting on the website too. MS. BUTTERY: Yes. THE COURT: Mr. Collins, I don't know if you are still there. MR. COLLINS: I am. THE COURT: Do you have anything to say about Ms. Buttery's proposed process? MR. COLLINS: It accomplishes my objective, but candidly, My Lady, I think it goes too far. I am trying to assist here. It's odd for creditors to be able to take a run at other creditors' claims to these proceedings, and, you know, the jurisprudence is fairly clear that, you know, a creditor cannot object to another creditor's claim for the purpose of trying to increase its stake. We have the monitor here as the gate holder, but I'm only concerned about the related party claims. And so I would be content, and I offer as assistance in this case the suggestion 89 Submissions by Mr. Williams 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MS. THE MS. THE MS. THE MR. that this process should only apply to related party claims. COURT: I don't know. There may be issues of both who's related and who's not. I'm not expecting that we're going to have floodgates of all sorts of issues about what are suppliers owed and that sort of thing. I think inevitably and practically the focus is on the [inaudible] party claim. So I think we will just keep it as a general process, Ms. Buttery. And as I said, the monitor can be the gatekeeper. BUTTERY: Yes. And it leaves it to the monitor's discretion if they feel someone isn't satisfied to bring the application, or [indiscernible] instructions before the court. COURT: Yes. So I take it, then, if we're going to add that in, then we can't proceed with this order, per se, although I suppose you wanted to -- to proceed as soon as possible with this, Ms. Toigo, with the deadlines. TOIGO: Yes. I am mindful of the time, though, in terms of ... Perhaps Ms. Buttery could proceed with her application for the sealing order, and I could try in that timeframe to get the order amended. COURT: I think practically speaking you are just going to have to take a blank sheet of paper and add in paragraph something A, if you want to, to proceed with this. Why don't you go in the hall and work on it with Ms. Buttery and Mr. [Indiscernible], and you can hash that out, and then we can proceed with the sealing order. I am here until 4:00 o'clock, so if you need a bit of time -- but I think we might as well get this signed off, actually before 4:00 because you'll need to get it stamped. TOIGO: Before 4:00. We've had that problem before. COURT: Okay. I'll let you proceed, then. Mr. Williams. WILLIAMS: My Lady, I will speak to the sealing order application. We've had a chance to review the monitor's supplemental sixth report to the court. As you can see, it contains not only the details of the offers received to date, the monitor's negotiation strategy going forward, an analysis of potential recoveries, and a number of 90 Submissions by Mr. Williams 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. other piece of information that the monitor felt, given the nature of today's application that it was important for the court to understand what exists, that there are bona fide third party offers, and what those actually look like given the -- what the court is being asked to determine. However, as I believe you can appreciate, if this were to be publicly available and these offers ^ able to get ahold of this information, all of those offers would very quickly go to the bottom, unrecoverable, which would be in nobody's interest. COURT: What is the process going forward from the monitor's perspective, Mr. Williams, in terms of the -- in terms of dealing with these offers? It may be in here somewhere and I just haven't got into it. WILLIAMS: The monitor -COURT: In other words, if you have a timeline in terms of dealing off all these offers. Assuming the restructuring doesn't come to pass, of course. WILLIAMS: If the restructuring doesn't come to pass, I believe the monitor's anticipation is that it would like to have -- it's going to be negotiating now. So the idea is if a restructuring doesn't come to pass that the monitor would be in court very quickly thereafter, an accumulating agreement could be reached in the meantime. So these truly are true parallel tracks. The monitor's not going to be sitting back waiting to see if a restructuring comes, and then start pursuing the offers. The offers will be pursued with the appropriate conditions today, if you make the order. COURT: So what are you thinking? Say two weeks to conclude negotiations, that sort of thing? WILLIAMS: I think it really depends on the note -- if I take you to page 9 of the supplemental report. COURT: Yes. WILLIAMS: You'll note, for example, in paragraph 5.2.1.1, that first sentence there's some issues that need to be worked out of the offers. So the monitor is mindful of those. Mindful of pushing the offer forward as much as it can. But some of it will depend on, 91 Submissions by Mr. Williams 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 obviously, the other side. So could an agreement be in place in two weeks? Hopefully. But it might be one. It might be four. It will depend on the other side. Obviously the monitor is -- also, if the option of 5.1.1 doesn't pan out, and the monitor has to go to another one, that'll delay the process. The monitor always being mindful that it wants to get as much done as it possibly can, as quickly as possible. Addressing the issue of sealing. The monitor addresses that at paragraph 8.2 of the sixth report, basically indicating -- and I don't need to go to it -- just saying in the monitor's view this analysis needs to be sealed until a deal is closed. Mindful of the test in Sierra that -- set out by the Supreme Court of Canada that documents being sealed ought not to be sealed forever, and that as a baseline principle, Canadian courts are open, the monitor's of the view that this information needs to remain sealed until a deal is closed, the cheque is in the bank, no conditions left, everything is done, at which point in time then this can be released, the sealing order can be lifted. I know you are familiar with the test in Sierra and the comments of the Supreme Court of Canada in Toronto Star newspapers in Ontario that aren't in the baseline considerations that courts are generally open. The test being that the court may be convinced that when granting a sealing order, such an order is necessary in order to prevent a serious risk to an important interest, including a commercial interest, in the context of litigation, because reasonably alternative measures will not prevent the risk, and the salutary effects of the confidentiality order, including the effects on the right of civil litigants to a fair trial outweigh its deleterious effects, including the effects on the right to free expression, which in this context includes the public interest in open and accessible court proceedings based on the monitor's submission that the potential harm to all stakeholders and the creditors, the petitioner and the process of this being public knowledge would be highly prejudicial, that the 92 Submissions by Mr. Williams 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. THE MR. MR. THE information is not necessary to be public at the moment, that there are no serious detrimental effects, in particular because in the CCAA proceeding the court has an officer appoint the monitor who is reviewing the information to ensure that various stakeholder interests are protected. So there is a protection in place for the other parties in this proceeding, and that protection is the monitor, which is obviously in the order. So this isn't like the company coming to seal offers. The monitor's there and accordingly [indiscernible] any detrimental effects. COURT: Do you have a draft order, Mr. Williams? WILLIAMS: I believe you have the order, My Lady. It was handed up. COURT: All right. WILLIAMS: The order is vetted. The only thing required is your initial on page 2 because the date of this order isn't yesterday; it's today. COURT: It has been changed to the 26th. WILLIAMS: Correct. We just need your initial next to that change. COURT: Yes. All right. Does anyone want to speak in opposition to the sealing order? Mr. Oulton, Mr. Wang, you are the last men standing. No? OULTON: The petitioner has no objection to it. WANG: No, My Lady. COURT: Thank you. All right. I am satisfied that the granting of the sealing order is appropriate. As Mr. Williams points out, the supplemental sixth report, dated June 26th, 2015, deals with highly sensitive information and documentation concerning the ongoing and what will be future efforts of the monitor to conclude a sale. I am more than satisfied that the release of that information would be extremely detrimental to the CCAA process and therefore to the various stakeholders. In addition, the sealing will only be until further court order, and it's anticipated that if the sale does arise from this process, and ultimately closes, then that will be the end of the salutary effects of the sealing order itself. Accordingly, the order is granted. Mr. Williams, I have signed the order for 93 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 MR. THE MR. THE THE you, and I think you just have to add the counsel who are still here on your application. WILLIAMS: Thank you, My Lady. COURT: I suppose Ms. Toigo is still working away with Ms. Buttery. Shall we stand down while they arrange for the revision to come? WILLIAMS: I think that makes sense, My Lady. COURT: All right. We will stand down, then. CLERK: Order in chambers. Chambers is stood down. (PROCEEDINGS RECESSED AT 3:28 P.M.) (PROCEEDINGS RECONVENED AT 3:38 P.M.) THE COURT: Ms. Toigo. MS. TOIGO: Thank you, My Lady. Thank you for the additional time as well. Ms. Buttery and I, and with the monitor as well, drafted paragraph 41A based on what we were hearing from Your Ladyship. It says: The monitor shall within seven days of the claims bar date and the executory contract bar date -And that was really to accommodate the long weekend, the claims bar date is on the 28th, and that seven days I believe takes us to the 1st: -- report to the court the contract parties and the creditors as to the outcome of the claims process/executory contract identification process as of that date. Any creditor or contract party requiring further information shall notify the monitor within seven days and the monitor shall forthwith reply to such reasonable requests for information. If in the monitor's discretion the matter warrants further consideration or resolution the monitor shall bring the matter to the court for advice and direction. That timing also dovetails nicely with the August 14th. So if there is some need for direction at that point that's known, if we got on on that date, or possibly just advise 94 Submissions by Ms. Toigo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 THE MR. THE MS. THE MS. THE Your Ladyship where some of the things might be going. COURT: All right. Mr. Collins, anything on that wording? COLLINS: I think we can work with that, My Lady. COURT: Good. So that's 41A. TOIGO: It's a bit off in terms of pages, but it seems to make the most sense in terms of the way the order is structured. COURT: The registry is not going to be happy with this. Thank goodness you are going to be dealing with them and not me. TOIGO: I am sure Mr. Jackson would say the same, My Lady. COURT: I'll just enter this in. (FURTHER REASONS FOR JUDGMENT - PREVIOUSLY TRANSCRIBED) THE COURT: Madam Clerk, was that satisfactory? I am going to initial this new page, Ms. Toigo. MS. TOIGO: My Lady, if you could also make a change at 41, initial. THE COURT: Yes, I think that was the only other handwriting on it, wasn't it? MS. TOIGO: Yes, that's correct. THE COURT: You might just want to photocopy this on to something which is not hole punched and which might make it a little more palatable downstairs. Again, I will leave it to you to speak to 95 Certification 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 scheduling about the 14th date. Thank you. THE CLERK: Order in chambers. Chambers is adjourned. (PROCEEDINGS ADJOURNED AT 3:46 P.M.) I, Pauline S. Cziraky, Official Reporter in the Province of British Columbia, Canada, BCSRA No. 539, do hereby certify: That the proceedings were transcribed by me from audio files provided of recorded proceedings, and the same is a true and correct and complete transcript of said recording to the best of my skill and ability. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my name and seal this 15th day of June, 2015. ____________________________ Pauline S. Cziraky, CSR (Ontario), RCR Official Reporter Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 2015 ONSC 1354 Ontario Superior Court of Justice [Commercial List] Nortel Networks Corp., Re 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 2015 ONSC 1354, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 In the Matter of the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. c-36, as Amended In the Matter of a Plan of Compromise or Arrangement of Nortel Networks Corporation, Nortel Networks Limited, Nortel Networks Global Corporation, Nortel Networks International Corporation and Nortel Networks Technology Corporation Application under the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-36, as Amended Newbould J. Heard: February 27, 2015 Judgment: March 4, 2015 Docket: 09-CL-7950 Proceedings: full reasons to Nortel Networks Corp., Re (2015), 2015 CarswellOnt 3019, Newbould J. (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) Counsel: Harvey G. Chaiton, George Benchetrit for SNMP Research International, Inc. and SNMP Research, Inc. Joseph Pasquariello, Christopher G. Armstrong for Monitor, Ernst & Young Inc. Alan Merskey, Vasuda Sinha for Nortel applicants Scott A. Bomhoff for U.S. Debtors Shayne Kukulowicz for US Unsecured Creditors' Committ Jonathan Bell for Ad Hoc Group of Bondholders Aubrey E. Kauffman for Avaya Inc. Subject: Insolvency Related Abridgment Classifications For all relevant Canadian Abridgment Classifications refer to highest level of case via History. Headnote Bankruptcy and insolvency --- Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act — Initial application — Lifting of stay Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). 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(3d) 196 Creditor company licensed its software to debtor companies pursuant to licence agreement — License agreement contained forum and choice of law clause providing that New York law would apply and that venue for disputes was Tennessee — Debtors became insolvent — Creditor filed proofs of claim in Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act (CCAA) proceedings and U.S. Chapter 11 proceedings for pre-filing claims against debtors — Creditor filed complaint in U.S. alleging post-filing unauthorized use of its software by debtors — Creditor brought motion to lift stay of CCAA proceedings to permit post-filing claims against Canadian debtors to be tried via jury trial in U.S. District Court for Delaware — Motion dismissed — Creditor did not show sufficient reason to displace present court's jurisdiction to keep all of creditor's claims against Canadian debtors within single proceeding — If claim against Canadian debtors for its post-filing conduct was tried in separate U.S. jury proceeding, there would be multiplicity of proceedings against Canadian debtors — Overlap between preand post-filing claims regarding unauthorized use of software created risk of inconsistent findings of fact — CCAA court should not lightly lose control of process for determining claims against debtor — There was nothing to indicate Delaware District Court would have interest in controlled process that would take into account insolvency of Canadian debtors and need for timely resolution of all claims and preserving debtors' resources. Table of Authorities Cases considered by Newbould J.: Eagle River International Ltd., Re (2001), (sub nom. Sam Lévy & Associés Inc. v. Azco Mining Inc.) 2001 SCC 92, 2001 CarswellQue 2725, 2001 CarswellQue 2726, (sub nom. Sam Lévy & Associés Inc. v. Azco Mining Inc.) [2001] 3 S.C.R. 978, 30 C.B.R. (4th) 105, (sub nom. Sam Lévy & Associates Inc. v. Azco Mining Inc.) 207 D.L.R. (4th) 385, (sub nom. Lévy (Sam) & Associés Inc. v. Azco Mining Inc.) 280 N.R. 155, 2001 CSC 92 (S.C.C.) — followed Expedition Helicopters Inc. v. Honeywell Inc. (2010), 319 D.L.R. (4th) 316, 70 B.L.R. (4th) 60, 87 C.P.C. (6th) 210, 262 O.A.C. 195, 2010 CarswellOnt 3091, 2010 ONCA 351, 100 O.R. (3d) 241 (Ont. C.A.) — considered ICR Commercial Real Estate (Regina) Ltd. v. Bricore Land Group Ltd. (2007), 2007 SKCA 72, 2007 CarswellSask 324, [2007] 9 W.W.R. 79, (sub nom. Bricore Land Group Ltd., Re) 299 Sask. R. 194, (sub nom. Bricore Land Group Ltd., Re) 408 W.A.C. 194, 33 C.B.R. (5th) 50 (Sask. C.A.) — considered Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 2 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 Stewart v. LePage (1916), 29 D.L.R. 607, 53 S.C.R. 337, 1916 CarswellPEI 1 (S.C.C.) — referred to Ted Leroy Trucking Ltd., Re (2010), (sub nom. Century Services Inc. v. Canada (A.G.)) [2010] 3 S.C.R. 379, [2010] G.S.T.C. 186, 12 B.C.L.R. (5th) 1, (sub nom. Century Services Inc. v. A.G. of Canada) 2011 G.T.C. 2006 (Eng.), (sub nom. Century Services Inc. v. A.G. of Canada) 2011 D.T.C. 5006 (Eng.), (sub nom. Leroy (Ted) Trucking Ltd., Re) 503 W.A.C. 1, (sub nom. Leroy (Ted) Trucking Ltd., Re) 296 B.C.A.C. 1, 2010 SCC 60, 2010 CarswellBC 3419, 2010 CarswellBC 3420, 409 N.R. 201, (sub nom. Ted LeRoy Trucking Ltd., Re) 326 D.L.R. (4th) 577, 72 C.B.R. (5th) 170, [2011] 2 W.W.R. 383 (S.C.C.) — considered Z.I. Pompey Industrie v. ECU-Line N.V. (2003), 2003 SCC 27, 2003 CarswellNat 1031, 2003 CarswellNat 1032, 2003 A.M.C. 1280, (sub nom. Pompey (Z.I.) Industrie v. EcuLine N.V.) 303 N.R. 201, 2003 CSC 27, 30 C.P.C. (5th) 1, [2003] 1 S.C.R. 450, 240 F.T.R. 318 (note), 224 D.L.R. (4th) 577 (S.C.C.) — followed Statutes considered: Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. B-3 Generally — referred to s. 187(7) — considered Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-36 Generally — referred to s. 11(1) — considered s. 11.02(1) [en. 2005, c. 47, s. 128] — considered s. 11.02(2) [en. 2005, c. 47, s. 128] — considered FULL REASONS to judgment reported at Nortel Networks Corp., Re (2015), 2015 CarswellOnt 3019 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) dismissing motion to lift stay of proceedings under Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act to permit post-filing claims against Canadian debtors to be tried in United States. Newbould J.: Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 3 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 1 SNMP Research International, Inc. and SNMP Research, Inc. moved for an order to lift the stay of proceedings contained in the Initial Order to permit an action in the United States to proceed against a number of Nortel entities, including NNC and NNL. At the conclusion of the hearing I dismissed the motion for reasons to follow. These are my reasons. Background to this litigation 2 SNMP Research, Inc. and SNMP Research International, Inc. (together "SNMPRI") are corporations in the business of producing and distributing software for the simple network management protocol ("SNMP"). The basic purpose of the SNMP is to manage and monitor network-attached devices. 3 Prior to the commencement of the CCAA Proceedings on January 14, 2009, SNMPRI licensed its software to Nortel for use in a number of Nortel products and from which Nortel purchased SNMP technologies and products. This relationship was governed by a license agreement between Nortel Network Corporation and SNMP Research International, Inc. dated December 23, 1999 together with certain schedules. 4 Following Nortel's insolvency filings, SNMPRI filed proofs of claim in the CCAA proceedings and the U.S Chapter 11 proceedings for pre-filing claims. 5 In the spring of 2011, SNMPRI indicated that it also intended to file a complaint for alleged post-filing unauthorized use, distribution, license and sale of SNMPRI software by certain of the Nortel entities after January 14, 2009 (the "Complaint"). The Complaint also asserted claims against certain parties who purchased assets from Nortel in the CCAA and chapter 11 proceedings, including Avaya Inc. SNMPRI seeks to recover at least $86 million from the Canadian and U.S. Debtors on an "administrative expense" basis, including damages based on the proceeds of the sales of certain Nortel lines of business approved by this Court and the U.S. Bankruptcy Court. By the administrative expense claim, SNMPRI seeks to collect 100 cents on the dollar as it is a post-filing claim. 6 On September 21, 2011, SNMPRI filed this motion for relief from the stay imposed by the Initial Order to permit the Complaint to proceed in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court against the Canadian Debtors and the U.S. Debtors. In the circumstances, because there was some risk of the Complaint becoming statute barred, SNMPRI and Nortel entered into a letter agreement on October 25, 2011 under which Nortel permitted SNMPRI to initiate the Complaint in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court on the condition that the proceeding be immediately stayed. The letter agreement provided that the parties would mediate the issues in the SNMPRI claims and that the stay of proceedings would continue until the parties had completed mediation. It also provided that if the mediation was not successful, SNMPRI could not to proceed with its Complaint until its motion to lift the stay was Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 4 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 decided. An order was made on consent permitting the stay in the Initial Order to be lifted for the limited purpose as agreed. 7 On December 27, 2013, SNMPRI filed an amended complaint (the "First Amended Complaint") with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court. The First Amended Complaint contains additional allegations arising from the post-filing sales of Nortel's assets and of copyright infringement by Nortel. 8 As with the original Complaint, in the First Amended Complaint SNMPRI seeks to pursue all of its claims, including those against the Canadian Debtors, by way of a jury trial in the U.S. Shortly before amending the Complaint, SNMPRI filed notice of its intent to "withdraw the reference" from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, meaning that it would seek to have the Complaint heard not by the U.S. Bankruptcy Court but by the United States Court for the District of Delaware. Thus on this record, SNMPRI seeks a jury trial in the U.S. District Court for Delaware. 9 The mediation failed. It concluded on March 14, 2014. The SNMPRI claims 10 In the SNMPRI claim made in this CCAA proceeding for pre-filing claims, SNMPRI claims: (a) A claim for approximately $22,000 for certain stayed royalty payments owing for Q4 2008. (b) A claim for $3.6 million for fees and pre-filing interest resulting from an alleged unauthorized and illegal usage by the Nortel debtors of SNMPRI's EMANATE software in its MG9000 software. (c) A claim for $3.8 million for fees and pre-filing interest resulting from an alleged unauthorized and illegal usage by the Nortel debtors of SNMPRI's EMANATE software used in Nortel's Bay Software. (d) SNMPRI claims further amounts to be determined under the U.S. Copyright Act, applicable trade secret law, and other intellectual property law for unauthorized use and distribution of SNMPRI software with the MG9000 software and Bay Software and other products of the Canadian Debtors. 11 In the Complaint that SNMPRI filed in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, SNMPRI sues to recover from the Canadian and U.S. Debtors damages and post-petition profits from Nortel's alleged unauthorized post-petition use, distribution, license or sale of SNMPRI software and Nortel's post-petition asset sale to Aveya. Pleaded is an alleged improper use by Nortel of SNMPRI's EMANATE software in Nortel's MG9000 software and in its MG9000 Bay Software. SNMPRI Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 5 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 claims to recover from Aveya damages and profits from Aveya's alleged unauthorized possession, use, distribution, license or sale of SNMPRI software, including the SNMPRI Bay Software. 12 The nub of the claims asserted in the Complaint is that Nortel post-filing improperly used or sold SNMPRI software that was not licensed to Nortel and that Aveya purchased a line of business which contained the SNMPRI software and has not paid anything for it. It is essentially a claim for the same alleged illegal activity as claimed in the pre-filing claim against the Canadian Debtors in this CCAA proceeding. Analysis 13 A court has wide powers under the CCAA. Section 11(1) of the CCAA provides that a court may make any order it considers appropriate in the circumstances. Section 11.02(1) and (2) grants jurisdiction in an Initial Order or a later order to stay any action already commenced against a debtor and to stay any proposed action for any period that the court considers necessary. It is a discretionary matter. The onus is on the party applying to lift the stay of proceedings. 14 There is little authority in how the court's consideration of a request to lift a stay should be dealt with in a liquidating insolvency. In one such case, ICR Commercial Real Estate (Regina) Ltd. v. Bricore Land Group Ltd. (2007), 33 C.B.R. (5th) 50 (Sask. C.A.), the supervising trial judge refused to lift the stay to permit an action to proceed against the debtor because the claimant failed to establish that it had a tenable claim. That order was upheld on appeal. In the Court of Appeal, Jackson J.A. stated that there ought not to be rigid requirements on how a supervising judge is to exercise his or her discretion. She stated: 66 Given the broad discretion granted to a supervisory judge under the CCAA, as well as the knowledge and experience he or she gains from the ongoing dealings with the parties under the proceedings, it would be contrary to the purpose of the CCAA for the law under it to develop in a restrictive way. Having regard for this, there ought not to be rigid requirements imposed on how a supervising CCAA judge must exercise his or her discretion with respect to lifting the stay. 15 Jackson J.A. went on to discuss guidance from previous decisions. She stated: 68 In determining what constitutes "sound reasons," much is left to the discretion of the judge. However, previous decisions on this point provide some guidance as to factors that may be considered: (a) the balance of convenience; (b) the relative prejudice to the parties; Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 6 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 (c) the merits of the proposed action, where they are relevant to the issue of whether there are "sound reasons" for lifting the stay (i.e., as was said in Ma, Re, if the action has little chance of success, it may be harder to establish "sound reasons" for allowing it to proceed). 16 In this case, no one raises the point that the merits of the proposed action against the Canadian Nortel are so lacking that the motion should be decided on that ground. The issue is whether the action should proceed in this Court or in a U.S. court. 17 SNMPRI contends that the parties agreed to a trial in the U.S., albeit Knoxville Tennessee. Section 9.11 of the License Agreement between Nortel and SNMPRI contains a forum and choice of law clause providing that New York law is to apply to the license and for disputes to be heard in Knoxville, Tennessee. It states: This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of New York, without reference to its choice of law provisions, and the federal laws of the United States applicable therein. The venue for any disputes arising under or in respect to this Agreement shall be Knoxville, Tennessee, U.S.A. All proceedings shall be conducted in English. 18 SNMPRI contends that as the parties have agreed on a forum to resolve their disputes, the onus lies on the Monitor and the Canadian Nortel debtors to displace the forum chosen by the parties. It relies on Z.I. Pompey Industrie v. ECU-Line N.V., [2003] 1 S.C.R. 450 (S.C.C.) as authority for the proposition that to displace a forum selection clause in a commercial agreement, strong cause must be shown. 19 SNMPRI also relies on a statement of Jurianz J.A. in Expedition Helicopters Inc. v. Honeywell Inc., 2010 ONCA 351 (Ont. C.A.) that a departure from a forum selection clause should only be permitted in exceptional circumstances. He went on to state: 24. A forum selection clause in a commercial contract should be given effect. The factors that may justify departure from that general principle are few. The few factors that might be considered include the plaintiff was induced to agree to the clause by fraud or improper inducement or the contract is otherwise unenforceable, the court in the selected forum does not accept jurisdiction or otherwise is unable to deal with the claim, the claim or the circumstances that have arisen are outside of what was reasonably contemplated by the parties when they agreed to the clause, the plaintiff can no longer expect a fair trial in the selected forum due to subsequent events that could not have been reasonably anticipated, or enforcing the clause in the particular case would frustrate some clear public policy. Apart from circumstances such as these, a forum selection clause in a commercial contract should be enforced. Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 7 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 20 I note that included in the factors referred to by Jurianz J.A. that might justify a departure from a forum selection clause was if the circumstances that have arisen are outside of what was reasonably contemplated by the parties when they agreed to the clause or that enforcing the clause would frustrate some clear public policy. 21 The Monitor and the Canadian Debtors say that because of the insolvency of Nortel, the onus lies on the SNMPRI to justify lifting the stay of proceedings. They say that all matters involving the Canadian Debtors should be dealt with in the CCAA court in Toronto. They rely on Eagle River International Ltd., Re, [2001] 3 S.C.R. 978 (S.C.C.) [hereinafter Sam Lévy]. That case involved a Quebec bankrupt company under bankruptcy administration in Quebec. The Trustee commenced a petition in Quebec to recover assets against a British Columbia company, which moved to transfer the matter to B.C. under section 187(7) of the BIA which permitted the transfer if there was "sufficient cause". The B.C. company relied on a type of forum selection clause, although Binnie J. held it to be only a choice of law clause. 22 In Sam Lévy, Binnie J. referred to and adopted a "single control" model that favours litigation involving an insolvent company to be dealt with in one jurisdiction. He stated that a choice of forum clause in an insolvency situation should be taken into account but it is not binding or controlling. He stated in particular: 26 The trustees will often (and perhaps increasingly) have to deal with debtors and creditors residing in different parts of the country. They cannot do that efficiently, to borrow the phrase of Idington J. in Stewart v. LePage (1916), 53 S.C.R. 337, at p. 345, "if everyone is to be at liberty to interfere and pursue his own notions of his rights of litigation".... 27 Stewart was, as stated, a winding-up case, but the legislative policy in favour of "single control" applies as well to bankruptcy. There is the same public interest in the expeditious, efficient and economical clean-up of the aftermath of a financial collapse.... 63 Leaving aside, then, the inapplicable directives of the Civil Code of Québec, the question is whether a choice of forum clause would amount to "sufficient cause" for the purpose of s. 187(7) to the extent that it would be an error of law for the motions judge to have declined to give it effect in the circumstances of this case. In my view a choice of forum clause (where there really is one) ought to be taken into careful consideration by a motions judge but it is not binding: [authorities omitted]. 64 It could be argued that the public policy favouring a "single control" of bankruptcy proceedings and opposition to their fragmentation demands that a choice of forum clause receive lesser effect in bankruptcy than in the context of ordinary commercial litigation: Industrial Packaging Products Co. v. Fort Pitt Packaging International, Inc., 161 A.2d 19 (Pa. 1960); In re Treco, 239 B.R. 36 (S.D.N.Y. 1999), aff'd 240 F.3d 148 (2d Cir. 2001). Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 8 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 67 The implementation of these public policies might be expected to take priority over private "choice of forum" agreements where the two come into conflict, as indeed Robert J.A. concluded in the Quebec Court of Appeal. A similar position is expressed in I. F. Fletcher, Insolvency in Private International Law (1999), at p. 47, fn. 73: [P]rivate contractual arrangements between parties cannot prevail over the exercise of bankruptcy jurisdiction, which belongs to the realm of public policy, serving a wider spread of interests including, ultimately, those of society at large. In the United States, however, there is a competing body of judicial opinion that a trustee in bankruptcy who sues on an agreement containing a forum selection clause should, as a general rule, be bound by that clause to the same extent as the parties thereto: see Coastal Steel Corp. v. Tilghman Wheelabrator Ltd., 709 F.2d 190 (3d Cir. 1983); In re Diaz Contracting, Inc., 817 F.2d 1047 (3d Cir. 1987), and Hays and Co. v. Merrill Lynch, 885 F.2d 1149 (3d Cir. 1989). 68 In my view, for the reasons previously mentioned, the choice of forum clause would be a significant factor under s. 187(7) but not, in the context of the public policies expressed in the Act, a controlling factor. 23 Justice Binnie stated that a creditor who was not a stranger to the bankruptcy had the onus to establish that multiple jurisdictions should be available for claims. He said: 76 ...Single control is not necessarily inconsistent with transferring particular disputes elsewhere, but a creditor (or debtor) who wishes to fragment the proceedings, and who cannot claim to be a "stranger to the bankruptcy", has the burden of demonstrating "sufficient cause" to send the trustee scurrying to multiple jurisdictions.... 24 Sam Lévy involved a BIA proceeding. In it, Binnie J. referred to Stewart v. LePage [1916 CarswellPEI 1 (S.C.C.)], a winding-up application. I see no reason why the principles in Sam Lévy should not be applicable in a CCAA proceeding. In Ted Leroy Trucking Ltd., Re, 2010 SCC 60, [2010] 3 S.C.R. 379 (S.C.C.) [hereinafter Century Cities], it was noted that the CCAA offers more flexibility and greater judicial discretion than the rules-based mechanism under the BIA and the principle was enunciated that the harmonization of insolvency law common to the BIA and CCAA is desirable to the extent possible. The central nature of insolvency and the resolution of issues caused by insolvency are common to both BIA and CCAA proceedings and so too should the underlying principles. 25 In Century Cities, nearly 10 years after Sam Lévy, Deschamps J. made clear why public policy prefers the resolution of all claims against a debtor to be determined in a single proceeding model. She stated: Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 9 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 22 While insolvency proceedings may be governed by different statutory schemes, they share some commonalities. The most prominent of these is the single proceeding model. The nature and purpose of the single proceeding model are described by Professor Wood in Bankruptcy and Insolvency Law: They all provide a collective proceeding that supersedes the usual civil process available to creditors to enforce their claims. The creditors' remedies are collectivized in order to prevent the free-for-all that would otherwise prevail if creditors were permitted to exercise their remedies. In the absence of a collective process, each creditor is armed with the knowledge that if they do not strike hard and swift to seize the debtor's assets, they will be beat out by other creditors. [pp. 2-3] The single proceeding model avoids the inefficiency and chaos that would attend insolvency if each creditor initiated proceedings to recover its debt. Grouping all possible actions against the debtor into a single proceeding controlled in a single forum facilitates negotiation with creditors because it places them all on an equal footing, rather than exposing them to the risk that a more aggressive creditor will realize its claims against the debtor's limited assets while the other creditors attempt a compromise. With a view to achieving that purpose, both the CCAA and the BIA allow a court to order all actions against a debtor to be stayed while a compromise is sought. 26 Justice Jurianz in Expedition Helicopters listed as one of the factors that might justify a departure from a forum selection clause is if the circumstances that have arisen are outside of what was reasonably contemplated by the parties when they agreed to the clause. The license agreement between SNMPRI and Nortel Networks Corporation was made on December 23, 1999. It is inconceivable that an insolvency of NNC, the parent company of all of the Nortel entities, was within the contemplation of the parties at that time. If it were, the license agreement presumably would not have been made. That is a significant change in circumstances. 27 Another factor referred to by Justice Jurianz was if enforcing the forum selection clause would frustrate some clear public policy. I think it follows from Sam Lévy that public policy in this country at least precludes a forum selection clause from being controlling in an insolvency situation. A CCAA insolvency proceeding serves a wider spread of interests than the parties to the agreement, including in this case the interests of pension and other claims asserted by the former employees of Nortel. A method that results in the most expeditious and fair determination of the claims of SNMPRI is clearly in the interests of all stakeholders in this CCAA process. 28 It is to be noted that whereas the forum selection clause provides for Knoxville, Tennessee to be the venue for any dispute, SNMPRI has stated in its filings that it wishes a jury trial in Delaware. Thus SNMPRI is not following the clause. During argument counsel for SNMPRI said that if successful in having the case sent from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to the Delaware District Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 10 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 Court, it then might seek a transfer to Tennessee. Whether that could be done I do not know, but it would not bode well for a timely disposition of the action. The prospect of the Nortel Debtors being dragged around in different U.S. courts is not an appealing one. For them to become entangled in a drawn-out, foreign litigation process that will likely have no regard for the practical concerns of this insolvency, including the importance of resolving all remaining unresolved claims against the Canadian Debtors in a timely and efficient manner so that these proceedings, already pending for six years, can be brought to their conclusion, is a situation that should be avoided. 29 So far as the forum selection clause providing that the license is to be governed by and construed in accordance with New York law and the federal laws of the United States applicable therein, no evidence has been filed as to what those laws are or to indicate that those laws are in any substantial way different from the laws of this country. Even if they were, Canadian courts can and often have applied foreign law. The recent UKPC claims against NNC and NNL is but one such example. I do not consider this much of a factor, if any, in favour of lifting the stay of proceedings. 30 I also do not think that the location of witnesses in the U.S. or in Canada is a compelling factor, as contended for by SNMPRI. In any event, material was not provided in any detail as to expected witnesses and where they reside. 31 SNMPRI says that the claims against the Canadian Debtors arise from common issues of fact and law as in the claim against the U.S. Debtors and against Aveya. Therefore SNMPRI says these claims should be heard together in the U.S. with the claims against the U.S. Debtors and against Aveya. This is particularly so, it asserts, because of its right to a jury trial in the U.S. in its claim against Avaya. 32 There would appear to be nothing to stop SNMPRI from claiming against the U.S. Debtors and Aveya in Canada, although it might be that Aveya would attempt to challenge the claim against it being tried in Canada. There would certainly be nothing to stop SNMPRI from claiming against the Canadian Debtors in this CCAA proceeding and against the U.S. Debtors in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court and having a joint trial under the protocols established between the two courts. SNMPRI could make Aveya a defendant in the action in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, and Mr. Kauffman who appeared for Aveya said it would be content to have the claim against it dealt with in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court. 33 I agree with all of those opposing SNMPRI's motion to lift the stay that the supposed difficulties that may be caused by its rights to a jury trial in its claim against Aveya are of its own choosing. SNMPRI may want to have the claim against Aveya tried together with the claims against Nortel, and try to have them all tried by a jury, but should that require the claim against the Canadian Debtors to be tried that way? It could be said, as one counsel did, that the tail is wagging the dog. Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 11 Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936 2015 ONSC 1354, 2015 CarswellOnt 2936, 23 C.B.R. (6th) 264, 250 A.C.W.S. (3d) 196 34 If the claim against the Canadian Debtors for its post-filing conduct is tried in a separate U.S. jury proceeding, it means that there will be a multiplicity of proceedings against the Canadian Debtors. The pre-filing claim must be determined in the CCAA proceedings. The post-filing claims would be tried before a jury. It is quite evident that there is overlap between these claims. Indeed the issues are the same except as to the timing of the alleged unauthorized use of SNMPRI software, one claim being for pre-filing unauthorized use and the other being for post-filing unauthorized use. The risk of inconsistent findings of fact is obvious. 35 A CCAA court should not lightly lose control of the process whereby claims against the debtor are to be determined. I agree that procedures should be imposed to ensure that the process for resolving the Canadian SNMPRI claims does not become more expensive or complicated than the circumstances permit or the claims merit. Such an approach would be consistent with this Court's earlier orders in these proceedings. The allocation and inter-estate claims trials were, among other things, ordered to proceed on an accelerated timetable, with a controlled process for documentary and oral discovery. There is nothing in the materials that would indicate that a Delaware District Court would have any interest in a controlled process that would take into account the insolvency of the Canadian Debtors and the need for a timely resolution of all claims and preserving the debtors' resources as much as is reasonably possible. 36 Is SNMPRI a stranger to the bankruptcy in the sense articulated by Binnie J. in Sam Lévy? I think not. SNMPRI has participated in and objected to the sales of Nortel's lines of business and it has filed a CCAA proof of claim against the Canadian Debtors. It has not met its burden of demonstrating sufficient reason to displace this Court's jurisdiction to keep all of the SNMPRI claims against the Canadian Debtors within a single proceeding. Even if the onus were on the Monitor and the Canadian Debtors to prevent the stay from being listed, I am of the view that they would have met that onus. 37 In the circumstances, the motion by SNMPRI to lift the stay of proceedings to permit the post-filing claims against the Canadian Debtors to be tried in the U.S. was dismissed. Order accordingly. End of Document Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 12 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 2014 ONSC 6145 Ontario Superior Court of Justice U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 2014 ONSC 6145, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 In the Matter of the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-36 as Amended In the Matter of a Proposed Plan of Compromise or Arrangement with Respect to U.S. Steel Canada Inc. H. Wilton-Siegel J. Heard: October 8, 2014 Judgment: October 8, 2014 Docket: CV-14-10695-00CL Counsel: R. Paul Steep, Jamey Gage, Heather Meredith for Applicant Kevin Zych for Monitor Michael Barrack, Robert Thornton, Grant Moffat for United States Steel Corporation and the proposed DIP Lender Gale Rubenstein, Robert J. Chadwick, Logan Willis for Her Majesty the Queen in Right of Ontario and the Superintendent of Financial Services (Ontario) Ken Rosenberg, Lily Harmer for United Steelworkers International Union and the United Steelworkers Union, Local 8782 Sharon L.C. White for United Steelworkers Union, Local 1005 Shayne Kukulowicz, Larry Ellis for City of Hamilton Steve Weisz, Arjo Shalviri for Caterpillar Financial Services Limited S. Michael Citak for Various Trade Creditors Kathryn Esaw, Patrick Corney for Independent Electricity System Operator Andrew Hatnay for Certain retirees and, for the proposed representative counsel Subject: Civil Practice and Procedure; Corporate and Commercial; Insolvency; Employment Related Abridgment Classifications For all relevant Canadian Abridgment Classifications refer to highest level of case via History. Headnote Bankruptcy and insolvency --- Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act — Initial application — Miscellaneous Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 1 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 Applicant steel company applied for protection under Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act (CCAA) — Initial order was granted — At comeback motion, applicant sought approval of debtor-in-possession (DIP) loan facility; order as to priority of administration charge and director's charge; approval of key employee retention payments; appointment of six representatives and representative counsel to represent interests of group of active and retiree beneficiaries not represented by union U — DIP financing approved — Financing facility was critically important to ensure stable continuing operations — Condition precedent to DIP loan was order granting charge giving DIP lender priority over all security interests and encumbrances, other than administration charge, director's charge and certain priority liens — DIP lender's priority charge granted, as it would not prejudice any other parties with security interests in applicant's property — Doctrine of paramountcy invoked so provisions of CCAA would override provisions of Pension Benefits Act in respect of priority of DIP lender's charge, administration charge and director's charge — Super-priority for administration and director's charges was necessary to further objectives of CCAA proceedings — Beneficiaries of such charges would not provide services to applicant without security for fees and disbursements — Key employee retention program approved in sum of $2,570,378 — Representatives were appointed — Unrepresented group of beneficiaries were important stakeholders and deserved meaningful representation, especially as there was solvency deficiency in applicant's pension plans. Bankruptcy and insolvency --- Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act — General principles — Constitutional issues Applicant steel company applied for protection under Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act (CCAA) — Initial order was granted — Condition precedent to debtor-in-possession (DIP) loan was order granting charge in favour of DIP lender giving priority over all encumbrances, other than administration charge, director's charge and certain priority liens — At comeback motion hearing, applicant sought, inter alia, approval of DIP loan facility and charge, and order as to priority of administration charge and director's charge — Doctrine of paramountcy invoked so that CCAA provisions would override provisions of Pension Benefits Act in respect of priority of DIP lender's charge, administration charge and director's charge — Super-priority for administration charge and director's charge was necessary to further objectives of CCAA proceedings — Beneficiaries of such charges would not provide services to applicant without proposed security for fees and disbursements — Financing was of critical importance to applicant to ensure stable continuing operations — DIP lender's charge did not secure any unsecured pre-filing obligations owed to DIP lender, and would not prejudice any other parties with security interests in applicant's property. Bankruptcy and insolvency --- Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act — Initial application — Grant of stay — Extension of order Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 2 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 Applicant steel company applied for protection under Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act (CCAA) — Initial order was granted — At comeback motion, applicant sought extension of initial order, including stay provisions — Extension granted as it would further purposes of CCAA — Stay was necessary to provide stability required to allow applicant opportunity to work towards plan of arrangement — Without stay, applicant would have cash flow deficiency that would render successful restructuring unattainable — Applicant was acting in good faith and with due diligence to facilitate restructuring. Table of Authorities Cases considered by H. Wilton-Siegel J.: Canwest Global Communications Corp., Re (2009), 2009 CarswellOnt 6184, 59 C.B.R. (5th) 72 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) — followed Canwest Publishing Inc./Publications Canwest Inc., Re (2010), 2010 CarswellOnt 1344, 2010 ONSC 1328, 65 C.B.R. (5th) 152 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) — followed Indalex Ltd., Re (2013), 2013 SCC 6, 2013 CarswellOnt 733, 2013 CarswellOnt 734, 354 D.L.R. (4th) 581, 2 C.C.P.B. (2nd) 1, 96 C.B.R. (5th) 171, (sub nom. Sun Indalex Finance LLC v. United Steelworkers) [2013] 1 S.C.R. 271, 20 P.P.S.A.C. (3d) 1, 439 N.R. 235, D.T.E. 2013T-97, 301 O.A.C. 1, 8 B.L.R. (5th) 1 (S.C.C.) — considered Nortel Networks Corp., Re (2009), 53 C.B.R. (5th) 196, 75 C.C.P.B. 206, 2009 CarswellOnt 3028 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) — followed Timminco Ltd., Re (2012), 2012 ONSC 506, 95 C.C.P.B. 48, 2012 CarswellOnt 1263, 85 C.B.R. (5th) 169 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) — referred to Timminco Ltd., Re (2012), 2012 CarswellOnt 1466, 2012 ONSC 948, 95 C.C.P.B. 222, 86 C.B.R. (5th) 171 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) — referred to Timminco Ltd., Re (2012), 2 C.B.R. (6th) 332, 2012 CarswellOnt 9633, 2012 ONCA 552 (Ont. C.A.) — referred to Statutes considered: Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. B-3 Generally — referred to Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 3 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-36 Generally — referred to s. 11 — considered s. 11.02(2) [en. 2005, c. 47, s. 128] — considered s. 11.02(3) [en. 2005, c. 47, s. 128] — considered s. 11.2 [en. 1997, c. 12, s. 124] — considered s. 11.2(4)(c) [en. 2007, c. 36, s. 65] — considered s. 11.51 [en. 2005, c. 47, s. 128] — considered s. 11.52 [en. 2005, c. 47, s. 128] — considered Pension Benefits Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. P.8 Generally — referred to Rules considered: Rules of Civil Procedure, R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 194 R. 10.01 — considered R. 12.07 — considered Regulations considered: Pension Benefits Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. P.8 Stelco Inc. Pension Plans, O. Reg. 99/06 Generally — referred to RULING on comeback motion regarding terms of initial order. H. Wilton-Siegel J.: 1 U.S. Steel Canada Inc. (the "Applicant") brought an application for protection under the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-36 (the "CCAA") on September 16, Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 4 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 2014, and was granted the requested relief pursuant to an initial order of Morawetz R.S.J. dated September 16, 2014 (the "Initial Order"). The Initial Order contemplated that any interested party, including the Applicant and the Monitor, could apply to this court to vary or amend the Initial Order at a comeback motion scheduled for October 6, 2014 (the "Comeback Motion"). 2 The Comeback Motion was adjourned from October 6, 2014 to October 7, 2014, and further adjourned on that date to October 8, 2014. On October 8, 2014, the Court heard various motions of the Applicant and addressed certain other additional scheduling matters, indicating that written reasons would follow with respect to the substantive matters addressed at the hearing. This endorsement constitutes the Court's reasons with respect to the five substantive matters addressed in two orders issued at the hearing. 3 In this endorsement, capitalized terms that are not defined herein have the meanings ascribed to them in the Initial Order. DIP Loan 4 The Applicant seeks approval of a debtor-in-possession loan facility (the "DIP Loan"), the terms of which are set out in an amended and restated DIP facility term sheet dated as of September 16, 2014 (the "Term Sheet") between the Applicant and a subsidiary of USS (the "DIP Lender"). 5 The Term Sheet contemplates a DIP Loan in the maximum amount of $185 million, to be guaranteed by each of the present and future, direct or indirect, wholly-owned subsidiaries of the Applicant. The Term Sheet provides for a maximum availability under the DIP Loan that varies on a monthly basis to reflect the Applicant's cash flow requirements as contemplated in the cash flow projections attached thereto. Advances bear interest at 5% per annum, 7% upon an event of default, and are prepayable at any time upon payment of an exit fee of $5.5 million together with the lender's fees and costs described below. The Term Sheet provides for a commitment fee in the amount of $3.7 million payable out of the first advance. The Applicant is also obligated to pay the lender's legal fees and any costs of realization or disbursement pertaining to the DIP Loan and these CCAA proceedings. 6 The Term Sheet contains a number of affirmative covenants, including compliance with a timetable for the CCAA proceedings. The DIP Loan terminates on the earliest to occur of certain events, including: (1) the implementation of a compromise or plan of arrangement; (2) the sale of all or substantially all of the Applicant's assets; (3) the conversion of the CCAA proceedings into a proceeding under the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act; (4) December 31, 2015, being the end of the proposed restructuring period according to the timetable; and (5) the occurrence of an event of default, at the discretion of the DIP lender. 7 A condition precedent to funding under the DIP Loan is an order of this Court granting a charge in favour of the DIP lender (the "DIP Lender's Charge") having priority over all security interests, Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 5 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 trusts, liens, charges and encumbrances, claims of secured creditors, statutory or otherwise (herein, collectively "Encumbrances") other than the Administration Charge (Part I), the Director's Charge and certain permitted liens set out in the Term Sheet, which include existing and future purchase money security interests and certain equipment financing security registrations listed in a schedule to the Term Sheet (the "Permitted Priority Liens"). 8 The terms and conditions of the DIP Loan, as set out in the Term Sheet, have been the subject of extensive negotiation in the period prior to the hearing of this motion. The DIP Loan is supported by the monitor and USS, and is not opposed by any of the other major stakeholders of the Applicant, including the Province of Ontario and the United Steelworkers International Union and the United Steelworkers Union, Locals 1005 and 8782 (collectively, the "USW"). 9 The existence of a financing facility is of critical importance to the Applicant at this time in order to ensure stable continuing operations during the CCAA proceedings and thereby to provide reassurance to the Applicant's various stakeholders that the Applicant will continue to have the financial resources to pay its suppliers and employees, and to carry on its business in the ordinary course. As such, debtor-in-possession financing is a pre-condition to a successful restructuring of the Applicant. In particular, the Applicant requires additional financing to build up its raw materials inventories prior to the Seaway freeze to avoid the risk of operating disruptions and/or sizeable cost increases during the winter months. 10 The Monitor, who was present during the negotiations regarding the terms of the DIL Loan, the Chief Restructuring Officer (the "CRO") and the Financial Advisor to the Applicant have each advised the Court that in their opinion the terms of the DIP Loan are reasonable, are consistent with the terms of other debtor-in-possession financing facilities in respect of comparable borrowers, and meet the financial requirements of the Applicant. The Monitor has advised in its First Report that it does not believe it likely that a superior DIP proposal would have been forthcoming. 11 The Court has the authority to approve the DIP Loan under s. 11 of the CCAA. I am satisfied that, for the foregoing reasons, it is appropriate to do so in the present circumstances. 12 The Court also has the authority under s. 11.2 of the CCAA to grant the requested priority of the DIP Lender's Charge to secure the DIP Loan. In this regard, s. 11.2(4) of the CCAA sets out a non-exhaustive list of factors to be considered by a court in addressing such a motion. In addition, Pepall J. (as she then was) stressed the importance of three particular criteria in Canwest Global Communications Corp., Re, 2009 CarswellOnt 6184 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) at paras. 32-34, [2009] O.J. No. 4286 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) [Canwest]. In my view, the DIP Lender's Charge sought by the Applicant is appropriate based on those factors for the reasons that follow. 13 First, notice has been given to all of the secured parties likely to be affected, including USS as the only secured creditor having a general security interest over all the assets of the Applicant. Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 6 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 Notice has also been given broadly to all PPSA registrants, various governmental agencies, including environmental agencies and taxing authorities, and to all pension and retirement plan beneficiaries pursuant to the process contemplated by the Notice Procedure Order. 14 Second, the maximum amount of the DIP Loan is appropriate based on the anticipated cash flow requirements of the Applicant, as reflected in its cash flow projections for the entire restructuring period, in order to continue to carry on its business during the restructuring period. The cash flows to January 30, 2015 are the subject of a favourable report of the Monitor in its First Report. 15 Third, the Applicant's business will continue to be managed by the Applicant's management with the assistance of the CRO during the restructuring period. The Applicant's board of directors will continue in place, a majority of whom are independent individuals with significant restructuring and steel-industry experience. The Applicant's parent and largest creditor, USS, is providing support to the Applicant by providing the DIP Loan through a subsidiary. Equally important, the existing operational relationships between the Applicant and USS will continue. 16 Fourth, for the reasons set out above, the DIP Loan will assist in, and enhance, the restructuring process. 17 Fifth, the DIP Lender's Charge does not secure any unsecured pre-filing obligations owed to the DIP lender or its affiliates. It will not prejudice any of the other parties having security interests in property of the Applicant. In particular, the DIP Charge will rank behind the Permitted Priority Liens. Although it will rank ahead of any deemed trust contemplated by the Pension Benefits Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. P.8, the DIP Loan contemplates continued payment of the pension contributions required under the Pension Agreement dated as of March 31, 2006, as amended by the Amendment to Pension Agreement dated October 31, 2007 (collectively, the "Stelco Pension Agreement") and Ontario Regulation 99/06 under the Pension Benefits Act (the "Stelco Regulation"). 18 Based on the foregoing, it is appropriate to grant the DIP Charge having the priority contemplated above. As was the case in Timminco Ltd., Re, 2012 ONSC 948 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) at paras. 46-47, (Ont. C.A.) [Timminco], it is not realistic to conceive of the DIP Loan proceeding in the absence of the DIP Lender's Charge receiving the priority being requested on this motion, nor is it realistic to investigate the possibility of third-party debtor-inpossession financing without a similar priority. The proposed DIP Loan, subject to the benefit of the proposed DIP Lender's Charge, is a necessary pre-condition to continuation of these restructuring proceedings under the CCAA and avoidance of a bankruptcy proceeding. I am satisfied that, in order to further these objectives, it is both necessary and appropriate to invoke the doctrine of paramountcy, as contemplated in Indalex Ltd., Re, 2013 SCC 6, [2013] 1 S.C.R. 271 (S.C.C.) [Sun Indalex] such that the provisions of the CCAA will override the provisions of the Pension Benefits Act in respect of the priority of the DIP Lender's Charge. Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 7 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 Administration Charge and Director's Charge 19 The Initial Order provides for an Administration Charge (Part I) to the maximum amount of $6.5 million, a Director's Charge to a maximum amount of $39 million, and an Administration Charge (Part II) to a maximum amount of $5.5 million plus $1 million. On this motion, the Applicant seeks to amend the Initial Order, which was granted on an ex parte basis, to provide that the Administration Charge (Part I) and the Director's Charge rank ahead of all other Encumbrances in that order, and the Administration Charge (Part II) ranks ahead of all Encumbrances except the prior-ranking court-ordered charges and the Permitted Priority Liens. 20 The Court's authority to grant a super-priority in respect of the fees and expenses to be covered by the Administration Charge (Part I) and the Administration Charge (Part II) is found in s. 11.52 of the CCAA. Similarly, s. 11.51 of the CCAA provides the authority to grant a similar charge in respect of the fees and expenses of the directors to be secured by the Director's Charge. 21 As discussed above, the Applicant has fulfilled the notice requirements in respect of those provisions by serving the motion materials for this Comeback Motion to the parties on the service list and by complying with the requirements of the Notice Procedure Order. 22 It is both commonplace and essential to order a super-priority in respect of charges securing professional fees and disbursements and directors' fees and disbursements in restructurings under the CCAA. I concur in the expression of the necessity of such security as a pre-condition to the success of any possible restructuring, as articulated by Morawetz R.S.J. in Timminco at para. 66. 23 In Canwest, at para. 54, Pepall J. (as she then was) set out a non-exhaustive list of factors to be considered in approving an administration charge. Morawetz R.S.J. addressed those factors in his endorsement respecting the granting of the Initial Order approving the Administration Charge (Part I) and the Administration Charge (Part II). Similarly, Morawetz R.S.J. also addressed the necessity for, and appropriateness of, approving the Director's Charge in such endorsement. 24 In my opinion, the same factors support the super-priority sought by the Applicant for the Administration Charge (Part I), the Director's Charge and the Administration Charge (Part II). Further, I am satisfied that the requested priority of these charges is necessary to further the objectives of these CCAA proceedings and that it is also necessary and appropriate to invoke the doctrine of paramountcy, as contemplated in Sun Indalex, such that the provisions of the CCAA will override the provisions of the Pension Benefits Act in respect of the priority of these Charges. I am satisfied that the beneficiaries of the Administration Charge (Part I) and the Administration Charge (Part II) will not likely provide services to the Applicant in these CCAA proceedings without the proposed security for their fees and disbursements. I am also satisfied that their participation in the CCAA proceedings is critical to the Applicant's ability to restructure. Similarly, I accept that the Applicant requires the continued involvement of its directors to pursue Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 8 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 its restructuring and that such persons, particularly its independent directors, would not likely continue in this role without the benefit of the proposed security due to the personal exposure associated with the Applicant's financial position. The KERP 25 The Applicant has identified 28 employees in management and operational roles who it considers critical to the success of its restructuring efforts and continued operations as a going concern. It has developed a key employee retention programme (the "KERP") to retain such employees. The KERP provides for a cash retention payment equal to a percentage of each such employee's annual salary, to be paid upon implementation of a plan of arrangement or completion of a sale, upon an outside date, or upon earlier termination of employment without cause. 26 The maximum amount payable under the KERP is $2,570,378. The Applicant proposes to pay such amount to the Monitor to be held in trust pending payment. 27 The Court's jurisdiction to authorize the KERP is found in its general power under s. 11 of the CCAA to make such order as it sees fit in a proceeding under the CCAA. The following factors identified in case law support approval of the KERP in the present circumstances. 28 First, the evidence supports the conclusion that the continued employment of the employees to whom the KERP applies is important for the stability of the business and to assist in the marketing process. The evidence is that these employees perform important roles in the business and cannot easily be replaced. In addition, certain of the employees have performed a central role in the proceedings under the CCAA and the restructuring process to date. 29 Second, the Applicant advises that the employees identified for the KERP have lengthy histories of employment with the Applicant and specialized knowledge that cannot be replaced by the Applicant given the degree of integration between the Applicant and USS. The evidence strongly suggests that, if the employees were to depart the Applicant, it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to have adequate replacements in view of the Applicant's current circumstances. 30 Third, there is little doubt that, in the present circumstances and, in particular, given the uncertainty surrounding a significant portion of the Applicant's operations, the employees to be covered by the KERP would likely consider other employment options if the KERP were not approved 31 Fourth, the KERP was developed through a consultative process involving the Applicant's management, the Applicant's board of directors, USS, the Monitor and the CRO. The Applicant's board of directors, including the independent directors, supports the KERP. The business judgment of the board of directors is an important consideration in approving a proposed KERP: see Timminco Ltd., Re, 2012 ONSC 506 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) at para.73, (Ont. S.C.J. Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 9 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 [Commercial List]). In addition, USS, the only secured creditor of the Applicant, supports the KERP. 32 Fifth, both the Monitor and the CRO support the KERP. In particular, the Monitor's judgment in this matter is an important consideration. The Monitor has advised in its First Report that it is satisfied that each of the employees covered by the KERP is critical to the Applicant's strategic direction and day-to-day operations and management. It has also advised that the amount and terms of the proposed KERP are reasonable and appropriate in the circumstances and in the Monitor's experience in other CCAA proceedings. 33 Sixth, the terms of the KERP, as described above, are effectively payable upon completion of the restructuring process. Appointment of Representative Counsel for the Non-USW Active and Retiree Beneficiaries 34 The beneficiaries entitled to benefits under the Hamilton Salaried Pension Plan, the LEW Salaried Pension Plan, the LEW Pickling Facility Plan who are not represented by the USW, the Legacy Pension Plan, the Steinman Plan, the Opportunity GRRSP, RBC's and RA's who are not represented by the USW and beneficiaries entitled to OEPB's who are not represented by the USW (collectively, the "Non-USW Active and Retiree Beneficiaries") do not currently have representation in these proceedings. The defined terms in this section have the meanings ascribed thereto in the affidavit of Michael A. McQuade referred to in the Initial Order. 35 The Applicant proposes the appointment of six representatives and representative counsel to represent the interests of the Non-USW Active and Retiree Beneficiaries. The Court has authority to make such an order under the general authority in section 11 of the CCAA and pursuant to Rules 10.01 and 12.07 of the Rules of Civil Procedure. I am satisfied that such an order should be granted in the circumstances. 36 In reaching this conclusion, I have considered the factors addressed in Canwest Publishing Inc./Publications Canwest Inc., Re, 2010 ONSC 1328, [2010] O.J. No. 943 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]). In this regard, the following considerations are relevant. 37 The Non-USW Active and Retiree Beneficiaries are an important stakeholder group in these proceedings under the CCAA and deserve meaningful representation relating to matters of recovery, compromise of rights and entitlement to benefits under the plans of which they are beneficiaries or changes to other compensation. Current and former employees of a company in proceedings under the CCAA are vulnerable generally on their own. In the present case, there is added concern due to the existence of a solvency deficiency in the Applicant's pension plans and the unfunded nature of the OPEB's. Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 10 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 38 Second, the contemplated representation will enhance the efficiency of the proceedings under the CCAA in a number of ways. It will assist in the communication of the rights of this stakeholder group on an on-going basis during the restructuring process. It will also provide an efficient and cost-effective means of ensuring that the interests of this stakeholder group are brought to the attention of the Court. In addition, it will establish a leadership group who will be able to organize a process for obtaining the advice and directions of this group on specific issues in the restructuring as required. 39 Third, the contemplated representation will avoid a multiplicity of retainers to the extent separate representation is not required. In this regard, I note that at the present time, there is a commonality of interest among all the non-USW Active and Retiree Beneficiaries in accordance with the principles referred to in Nortel Networks Corp., Re, 2009 CarswellOnt 3028 (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) at para. 62, (Ont. S.C.J. [Commercial List]) [Nortel]. In particular, at the present time, none of the CRO, the proposed representative counsel and the proposed representatives see any material conflict of interest between the current and former employees. In these circumstances, as in Nortel, I am satisfied that representation of the employees' interests can be accomplished by the appointment of a single representative counsel, knowledgeable and experienced in all facets of employee claims. If the interests of such parties do in fact diverge in the future, the Court will be able to address the need for separate counsel at such time. In this regard, the proposed representative counsel has advised the Court that it and the proposed representatives are alert to the possibility of such conflicts potentially arising and will bring any issues of this nature to the Court's attention. 40 Fourth, the balance of convenience favours the proposed order insofar as it provides for notice and an opt-out process. The proposed representation order thereby provides the flexibility to members of this stakeholder group who do not wish to be represented by the proposed representatives or the proposed representative counsel to opt-out in favour of their own choice of representative and of counsel. 41 Fifth, the proposed representative counsel, Koskie Minsky LLP, have considerable experience representing employee groups in other restructurings under the CCAA. Similarly, the proposed representatives have considerable experience in respect of the matters likely to be addressed in the proceedings, either in connection with the earlier restructuring of the Applicant or in former roles as employees of the Applicant. 42 Sixth, the proposed order is supported by the Monitor and a number of the principal stakeholders of the Applicant and is not opposed by any of the other stakeholders appearing on this motion. Extension of the Stay Copyright © Thomson Reuters Canada Limited or its licensors (excluding individual court documents). All rights reserved. 11 U.S. Steel Canada Inc., Re, 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465 2014 ONSC 6145, 2014 CarswellOnt 16465, 20 C.B.R. (6th) 116, 247 A.C.W.S. (3d) 266 43 Lastly, the Applicant seeks an order extending the provisions of the Initial Order, including the stay provisions thereof, until January 23, 2015. Section 11.02(2) of the CCAA gives the Court the discretionary authority to extend a stay of proceedings subject to satisfaction of the conditions set out in s. 11.02(3). I am satisfied that these requirements have been met in the present case, and that the requested relief should be granted, for the following reasons. 44 First, the stay is necessary to provide the stability required to allow the Applicant an opportunity to work towards a plan of arrangement. Since the Initial Order, the Applicant has continued its operations without major disruption. In the absence of a stay, however, the evidence indicates the Applicant will have a cash flow deficiency that will render the objective of a successful restructuring unattainable. As mentioned, the Monitor has advised that, based on its review, the Applicant should have adequate financial resources to continue to operate in the ordinary course and in accordance with the terms of the Initial Order during the stay period. 45 Second, I am satisfied that the Applicant is acting in good faith and with due diligence to facilitate the restructuring process. In this regard, the Applicant has had extensive discussions with its principal stakeholders to address significant objections to the initial draft of the Term Sheet that were raised by such stakeholders. 46 Third, the Monitor and the CRO support the extension. 47 Lastly, while it is not anticipated that the restructuring will have proceeded to the point of identification of a plan of arrangement by the end of the proposed stay period, the Applicant should be able to make significant steps toward that goal during this period. In particular, the Applicant intends to commence a process of discussions with its stakeholders as well as to explore restructuring options through a sales or restructuring recapitalization process (the "SARP") contemplated by the Term Sheet. An extension of the stay will ensure stability and continuity of the applicant's operations while these discussions are conducted, without which the Applicant's restructuring options will be seriously limited if not excluded altogether. In addition, the Applicant should be able to take steps to provide continuing assurance to its stakeholders that it will be able to continue to operate in the ordinary course during the anticipated restructuring period, without interruption, notwithstanding the current proceedings under the CCAA. 48 Accordingly, I am satisfied that an extension of the Initial Order will further the purposes of the Act and the requested extension should be granted. Order accordingly. 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